naming policy rules... what are they?

[SchadenFreude]

The straw man you used was clearly within the "offensive" category. Taxi, to the best of my knowledge, is not an offensive word. Try using an argument that takes a non-offensive word and apply the same logic to it.

Phrases, and names that form phrases, are very common in the real world. I don't suddenly go bonkers when I see a name that could also be interpreted as a phrase. By the same logic, I don't flip out and have my "reality immersion" challenged when I meet a person in the real world who has a name that is also a word.

"Will Smith" -- is he a blacksmith, or just a black "Smith"? You decide. The name nazis on this server would have nuked his name if they were able to play god in real life. Not based upon any published rule, per se. Instead, the guide in question would have nuked his name because they didn't like him, possibly Will Smith he is black and the guide is from a country that has a long history of racial intolerance.

Of course, I don't honestly believe that. But, see how easy it is to make a straw man argument and beat upon that, instead of sticking to the debate?

[Toony]

Originally Posted by SchadenFreude [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The straw man you used was clearly within the "offensive" category. Taxi, to the best of my knowledge, is not an offensive word. Try using an argument that takes a non-offensive word and apply the same logic to it.

Miss this part?

It's a serious question even if the example might not be.

No straw.

[Taxi]

To hammer the point in more, we can turn the question on its head.

Is it worth it, for something as trivial as RP enforcement names on a non-RP server, to annoy (im being kind here) the hundreds of players who went and rolled a character which the names meant something? When players who were punished know its never going to end because they see new names that mean something pop up each day? When the rules were vague to start with?

Because the rules are vague at best and at worst feels like a police officer's discretion to arrest a black guy for jaywalking and to not arrest white people for jaywalking, deciding when to apply vague laws when he wants to.

If you dont want that police corruption flavor to how you run your server, then you enforce the same rules for everyone.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because the rules are vague at best and at worst feels like a police officer's discretion to arrest a black guy for jaywalking and to not arrest white people for jaywalking, deciding when to apply vague laws when he wants to..

So would you prefer them just to 100% adhere to SOE's ruleset? (clearly they would have to reword it or run the risk of some end-around copyright violation lawsuit)

[Blackyce]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So would you prefer them just to 100% adhere to SOE's ruleset? (clearly they would have to reword it or run the risk of some end-around copyright violation lawsuit)

No, I would like a ruleset that isn't just "The Opinion" of whatever GM is currently volunteerinig at the moment.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Blackyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I would like a ruleset that isn't just "The Opinion" of whatever GM is currently volunteerinig at the moment.

To one degree or another opinion is going to enter into the equation. Take five people in any environment and give them even the most basic set of rules and they're all going to interpret them slightly different.

Take this for example:

Common words that would not be found in a Norrathian setting: Switchblade, Microwave, Phaser, Sloegin, Website, Cannabis, Computer, etc. are all examples of this type of name. Also included here is slang common to the gaming culture, such as leet, uber, or phear.

Is Taxi a common word? is Schadenfreude? (maybe not in the U.S. maybe so in Germany)

[Kainzo]

Originally Posted by Blackyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I would like a ruleset that isn't just "The Opinion" of whatever GM is currently volunteerinig at the moment.

I think someone here should make their own server and terrorize the way they see fit. You don't pay to play you, hell you get all of this shit for free. How much have you donated in the last 3 months? el zelcho?

[SchadenFreude]

Originally Posted by Kainzo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think someone here should make their own server and terrorize the way they see fit. You don't pay to play you, hell you get all of this shit for free. How much have you donated in the last 3 months? el zelcho?

Well said. I have, however, clicked the various links on the home page on a daily basis. Ironic, that those links are usually for services that are banned on this server, but hey ... why be hypocritical?

[Blackyce]

Originally Posted by Kainzo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think someone here should make their own server and terrorize the way they see fit. You don't pay to play you, hell you get all of this shit for free. How much have you donated in the last 3 months? el zelcho?

No I don't pay to play but when you change someone's name that appears to be following the naming policy and then get shown to be in an SS of people who's name should actually be changed, it appears there's a bit of a conflict there.

So Cyrius goes out of his way to change Schaden Fruede's name but, I'm assuming, leaves all those others in the SS the same? It's a power trip plain and simple and people should know that the GM's on this server have power trips and can change your apparent RP name at their whim.

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So would you prefer them just to 100% adhere to SOE's ruleset? (clearly they would have to reword it or run the risk of some end-around copyright violation lawsuit)

Ive mentioned multiple times what i think they should do.

- First, put the renames on hold (with exception of the offensive ones) until its sorted out.

Then 2 options:

1) Stick to obviously offensive names, changing names such as Vagina Smasher. That is actually what the rules are supposed to be, according to Nilbog, if i am not mistaken.

2) Explicitely state that names that mean something will no longer be tolerated, and dedicate a day for Devs and GMs to deal with this, slapping everyone with renames for a full day or 2, which will make people stop rolling toons with names that mean something for the most part. Then just mop up the rest.

The copyright infrigement thing is so silly i dont think its worth commenting much, beside the fact that can you imagine the PR disaster for a company like say, Marvel if they were to sue some obscure EQemu devs because one of their players picked the name "The thing" ?