Game Mechanics: Shaman pets don't equip weapons!

[TWDL_Prexus]

Your links are from 2002 forward. None of that info is useful here. Infact the second post on the first link reads:

Shaman pet's dont use weapons. At least thats how its always been before.

This was changed after velious, aka it is correct on here, and probably will never change.

[Byrjun]

That person was found to be incorrect later in the thread. You can't point at 1 post as "proof" if it contradicts dozens surrounding it.

Saying that since it was posted in 2002 it can't be applicable is silly. Do you really think that Verant just randomly went and upgraded shamans by doing something silly like making their pets be able to equip weapons when they couldn't before? No. Not only does that make no sense, they had said that they felt that shamans were too powerful based on some of the mobs they were soloing in Velious. That's why this kind of information was held secret, and you can see people requesting that that thread get deleted since people were afraid that this would be nerfed now that it was posted on a public forum (the Shaman's Crucible, which was a very popular website during that time). Not a single person says "oh, this was recently changed, pets couldn't wield weapons before." It just happened to be a new discovery for the people in that thread at that time. Advanced mechanics such as these weren't universal knowledge during the first few years of the game, most players were pretty clueless about most of the things we know today.

I can find a post about Fippy Darkpaw from 2009 on Allakhazam, that doesn't mean that Fippy Darkpaw was not in the game until 2009.

I've posted proof that shaman pets did indeed equip weapons, if you would like to refute this then please provide your proof that they did not equip weapons. I'm not trying to sound rude here or anything, but I don't want this report to be influenced by other peoples' guesses and speculation.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've posted proof that shaman pets did indeed equip weapons, if you would like to refute this then please provide your proof that they did not equip weapons. I'm not trying to sound rude here or anything, but I don't want this report to be influenced by other peoples' guesses and speculation.

You're going to need some evidence from 1999-2000 range because the dev that took shaman pet weapons out last year has evidence to the contrary.

Patch thread: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ghlight=shaman

Dev's evidence: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...3&postcount=72

[Furme]

Just being the devil's advocate here..

But all of his proof says that shammy pets don't dual wield.. with exception to 2 people saying that they don't wield any weapons at all..

I will say I do remember trolling shamans on live around luclin era by buying a blade of firey lamentations and giving it to shammy pets during raids <.<

From what I understood, you could give them one weapon.. and they could proc it.. but they wouldn't dual wield weapons

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Furme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just being the devil's advocate here..

But all of his proof says that shammy pets don't dual wield.. with exception to 2 people saying that they don't wield any weapons at all..

I will say I do remember trolling shamans on live around luclin era by buying a blade of firey lamentations and giving it to shammy pets during raids <.<

From what I understood, you could give them one weapon.. and they could proc it.. but they wouldn't dual wield weapons

[Fri Sep 13 11:13:15 2002] Your Bane of Nife spell has worn off.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober tries to pierce a guard sonic wolf, but misses!
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober tries to pierce a guard sonic wolf, but misses!
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober slashes a guard sonic wolf for 47 points of damage.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober slashes a guard sonic wolf for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Taunting attacker, Master.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:17 2002] You say, 'Hail, a guard sonic wolf'

[Fri Sep 13 20:19:03 2002] A small mushroom's skin is rent by shards of velium.
[Fri Sep 13 20:21:59 2002] A small mushroom is stunned.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fri Sep 13 11:13:15 2002] Your Bane of Nife spell has worn off.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober tries to pierce a guard sonic wolf, but misses!
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober tries to pierce a guard sonic wolf, but misses!
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober slashes a guard sonic wolf for 47 points of damage.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Kober slashes a guard sonic wolf for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:16 2002] Taunting attacker, Master.
[Fri Sep 13 11:13:17 2002] You say, 'Hail, a guard sonic wolf'

Post Luclin, almost PoP-era log.

You're going to need to present something that has a date before December 2000 if you want to get this changed now or before December 2001 if you want it changed at all.