Mormon Flowchart

Hailto · #1 01-24-2013, 05:50 PM

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In high school I used to live across the street from a Mormon house. Their daughters were p sexy. They were intelligent and successful, but sometimes people who are otherwise logical and functional get caught up in some pretty outlandish belief systems-- it's hard to escape your upbringing and your community.

I often fantasized about corrupting them with my secular agnostic lifestyle and worldview. They went off to BYU and I think one is a doctor and the hotter one is a wife and mom.

They could have lived in darkness with me, man.

An agnostic is just an indecisive atheist. How can one really be UNSURE if something as big as the idea of a god exists or not, if there is no concrete evidence of it, why are you unsure, if there is evidence, you aren't agnostic.

Arclyte · #2 01-24-2013, 06:49 PM

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An agnostic is just an indecisive atheist. How can one really be UNSURE if something as big as the idea of a god exists or not, if there is no concrete evidence of it, why are you unsure, if there is evidence, you aren't agnostic.

It always amuses me when hipster militant atheists try to shoehorn agnosticism.

fuck off, honestly.

Hailto · #3 01-24-2013, 06:56 PM

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It always amuses me when hipster militant atheists try to shoehorn agnosticism.

fuck off, honestly.

You don't have to get defensive, im not trying to shoehorn you into admitting what you're too afraid to say if you consider yourself agnostic. Im simply saying i don't understand the thought process of the agnostic. If someone were to ask you if big foot or the loch ness monster were real, would you really answer "i don't know"? It is the exact same concept.

If the evidence is there, then you have a belief, if the evidence is not there then you do not hold a religious belief, making you an atheist. There is really no middle ground in this argument unless you are incredibly indecisive or unintelligent.

Arclyte · #4 01-24-2013, 07:09 PM

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You don't have to get defensive, im not trying to shoehorn you into admitting what you're too afraid to say if you consider yourself agnostic. Im simply saying i don't understand the thought process of the agnostic. If someone were to ask you if big foot or the loch ness monster were real, would you really answer "i don't know"? It is the exact same concept.

If the evidence is there, then you have a belief, if the evidence is not there then you do not hold a religious belief, making you an atheist. There is really no middle ground in this argument unless you are incredibly indecisive or unintelligent.

Ephirith · #5 01-24-2013, 09:04 PM

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An agnostic is just an indecisive atheist. How can one really be UNSURE if something as big as the idea of a god exists or not, if there is no concrete evidence of it, why are you unsure, if there is evidence, you aren't agnostic.

Yea this is correct, and I'm well aware of this whole criticism of agnosticism. The reason I put agnostic instead of atheist is simply because:

1. Agnosticism admits the insufficiency of explanation found in belief systems (Atheism, theism). It is the acknowledgement of unknowable truth.

2. If there's a word for the attitude "I'm atheist, but I acknowledge the factual insufficiency and inherent unknowableness of atheism", well that's me.

3. That makes me an agnostic atheist.

4. I didn't want this to turn into a discussion

I don't have anything against theists, many of my best friends have been religious people and of all the best people I've actually met, the majority were christian.

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Agnostic Atheist - Believes that God does not exist nor does he care if he exists. This person doesn't see any proof that he exists one way or another, and has decided that he must not be there. This is what is called being logical - I see no proof of existence, therefore there must be proof. Most people would call this classification 'agnostic'.

This basically

I still reserve the right to bash cultlike scam religions with prophets known for their tall tales.