Enchanter pet questions

[goshozal]

At low levels, like below 12 or 16, certain 2-handed weapons will increase the (summmoned pet) pet's damage.

Charmed pets will continue to do the damage they normally would if not charmed, and therefore they vastly overpower summoned pets. However, charm is riskier.

At levels above 20, it's wise to give the pet 2 1-handed weapons (cheap kinds like the rusty daggers mentioned above) to force it to dual wield. This is the only way that your weapons will increase the pet's damage at levels above 16 or so... by making it hit 3 or 4 times per cycle instead of 2. At the really high levels, you can get into weapons that proc certain nice things like stuns. But even at level 20, a pet that has 2 1-handed weapons and haste will be significantly stronger than one without.

Yes, your buffs are landing on the pet. They are not displayed in any way, but they are there. Buffs can increase the pet's damage similar to the way they affect players. Which is to say that haste is the biggest dps increase in town.

Read the enchanter guides on the wiki.project1999.org (Xorn's and Loraen's guides) and teach yourself to charm solo. It's the bee's knees.

Charm is also REALLY strong in small groups. Find any class that can heal: cleric, shaman, druid... team up, charm something and go to town. Having a healer partner does two great things: 1) it eliminates the XP penalty which means you don't have to break the charm or use mem blur to get good experience, and 2) It makes charm much safer both when it breaks, and when charm is combined with haste.

I'm like gotrocks, I wouldn't recommend hasting a charmed pet (while solo) unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Keeping the non-charmed target slowed and rooted is just as effective and much safer, if somewhat slower. It's better to get slower experience than a quick death.

[Pyrion]

To save you from having to find out the hard way here are my personal guidelines for charming:

1) Dont aim too high. Better charm something in the lower blue area if you want to keep it for a while. Additionally, if such a pet breaks, it will prolly not kill you so fast.

2) How to charm:
a) Always buff yourself with your charisma buff. Generally get high charisma.
b) Mez (ALWAYS use level 4 spell with short duration)
c) Tash (if somebody can cast malo line, thats a plus)
d) Charm
e) Park pet a few meters away. When it breaks it gives you a bit more time to react.
24 seconds after b) you got your new pet

About pet haste: If you got a very low blue or even green pet, haste really cant hurt much. I usually only use augment on pets, need mana for recharms and CC in a group. Better charm something a bit lower and haste instead of a bit higher without haste. Same damage but way longer charm duration.

And one other advice for chanters level 16+. Always buff your own MR. It's really nice when puller brings mobs too close and you already started your AE mez to resist your own mez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Self mez sux.

[Peck80]

Wow, this is great stuff guys. Far and away better than I was hoping for even. Thanks so much for all the great feedback. Now I just need to pound out a couple more levels to get to 12!

Originally Posted by Pyrion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To save you from having to find out the hard way here are my personal guidelines for charming:

1) Dont aim too high. Better charm something in the lower blue area if you want to keep it for a while. Additionally, if such a pet breaks, it will prolly not kill you so fast.

2) How to charm:
a) Always buff yourself with your charisma buff. Generally get high charisma.
b) Mez (ALWAYS use level 4 spell with short duration)
c) Tash (if somebody can cast malo line, thats a plus)
d) Charm
e) Park pet a few meters away. When it breaks it gives you a bit more time to react.
24 seconds after b) you got your new pet

Just to be clear, tash lowers magic resistance, so this is done to ensure your charm hits home correct? Thanks again!

[Pyrion]

Originally Posted by Peck80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, this is great stuff guys. Far and away better than I was hoping for even. Thanks so much for all the great feedback. Now I just need to pound out a couple more levels to get to 12!



Just to be clear, tash lowers magic resistance, so this is done to ensure your charm hits home correct? Thanks again!

A charmed pet every so often gets another try to break charm. If it has MR lowered this try is more likely to fail, resulting in a longer charm duration. So always keep MR of pet as low as possible. Landing a charm is no problem even without tash, keeping it is the problem.

[Froglok]

Originally Posted by goshozal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charm is also REALLY strong in small groups. Find any class that can heal: cleric, shaman, druid... team up, charm something and go to town. Having a healer partner does two great things: 1) it eliminates the XP penalty which means you don't have to break the charm or use mem blur to get good experience.

FALSE

Oct 23rd update: "Classic pet experience distribution." Oct 23 2011 Patch.

In order to receive full experience for a kill solo, you need to do more than 50% of the damage to the mob. If your pet out-damages you or the group, it will take 50% of the experience away from the kill. This is a major change from the previous system, in which you only needed to do a single point of damage to the mob in order to get full experience. If you are grouped, your group and you will get full xp from the kill.

Also... RTFM
http://wiki.project1999.org/Pet_Guide

[Splorf22]

Propo did a test and grouping eliminates the pet xp penalty.

[Froglok]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Propo did a test and grouping eliminates the pet xp penalty.

That's either a bug or the wiki is wrong. Need a dev to confirm this.

[A1551]

Originally Posted by Froglok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's either a bug or the wiki is wrong. Need a dev to confirm this.

It wouldn't be the first time the wiki was wrong, even regarding direct quotes from patch notes. It could also be a bug/oversight that the devs aren't aware of, or more likely just don't care about enough to waste time fixing instead of working on more important things (ie velious! Or raid changes <3)

I don't believe the pet exp penalty implementation here is classic, in fact I believe it is more strict/less pet friendly than we were on a classic timeline. Or so I've heard on the forums (which, well, could be wrong too) Certainly making pet classes less group friendly seems pointless, especially if it wasn't actually a classic mechanic. Who knows, maybe one patch day there'll be a lot of sad clerics & enchanters out there.