Raiding scene changes proposal

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you were capable of being objective you would notice that TMO has worked with many guilds in the past.

using enraptured as a buffer to evade bans and throwin them some dkp to make up for the utter destruction of their reputation doesnt count

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

using enraptured as a buffer to evade bans and throwin them some dkp to make up for the utter destruction of their reputation doesnt count

We had a free dragon policy for awhile till BDA shit on that, we have raided with enraptured and taken to allow them to have mobs. We have stayed off engaged for Flawless Victory for hours at a time. We have stayed off engaging for almost anything Divinity is involved in. Even stayed engages for BDA before VD joined them.

We have brought guests on our raids to allow them to kilL Dwagons!. We have offered advice on kills to other guilds, even to the point of loaning or giving out resist gear.

Some stuff we haven't done that some members of your guild or FE has done. We never memblurred raid targets with the intention of getting them to Complete heal when we had no capability of killing that target. We have never supported or reinvited MQ/SEQ users(once discovered) into our guild. We have never had a GM in our guild specifically design raid rules to put our competition at a disadvantage(or less of an advantage). We have never gone against a rotation agreement when one was in affect. We have never avoided suspension when other partners in our raid team were suspended on a joint raid.

[Autotune]

I've given BDA, Taken and Divinity spawn timers and even told them how to get involved in the raiding scene ages ago.

They don't care, it's all about "what can you do for me now!?"


needy needy needy.

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've given BDA, Taken and Divinity spawn timers and even told them how to get involved in the raiding scene ages ago.

They don't care, it's all about "what can you do for me now!?"


needy needy needy.

word - the raiding scene is only fun with competition. I actually believe stealin when he says this.

easy kills - tons of loot (maxing out people to fast) actually hurts a guild allot of times. BURNOUT

[Llodd]

Perhaps Velious will be the worst thing to happen for TMO.

I mean, if theres too many raid target to go around, where will the competition be? (unless ofcourse all the talk of how much they like competition is just hot air)

Time will tell. Gonna be a long while yet.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps Velious will be the worst thing to happen for TMO.

I mean, if theres too many raid target to go around, where will the competition be? (unless ofcourse all the talk of how much they like competition is just hot air)

Time will tell. Gonna be a long while yet.

The main problem with Kunark competition is 32k hp mobs. With a significant raid force that are being attentive any mob can just be dps'd down before the mob can kill you. Although, sometimes Hoshkar can be a bitch if he is warping a bit and aoeing all crazy.

In velious the capability of wiping is greatly increased so the competition even if they are slow to arrive will have a greater chance of getting a shot on a baddie. You can not just run into dozekar and engage him instantly. You can't poopsock on his spawn, etc. Planning and preparation will be key as well as proper execution of tank switches/ch chains for the velious battles.

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main problem with Kunark competition is 32k hp mobs. With a significant raid force that are being attentive any mob can just be dps'd down before the mob can kill you. Although, sometimes Hoshkar can be a bitch if he is warping a bit and aoeing all crazy.

In velious the capability of wiping is greatly increased so the competition even if they are slow to arrive will have a greater chance of getting a shot on a baddie. You can not just run into dozekar and engage him instantly. You can't poopsock on his spawn, etc. Planning and preparation will be key as well as proper execution of tank switches/ch chains for the velious battles.

this.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main problem with Kunark competition is 32k hp mobs. With a significant raid force that are being attentive any mob can just be dps'd down before the mob can kill you. Although, sometimes Hoshkar can be a bitch if he is warping a bit and aoeing all crazy.

In velious the capability of wiping is greatly increased so the competition even if they are slow to arrive will have a greater chance of getting a shot on a baddie. You can not just run into dozekar and engage him instantly. You can't poopsock on his spawn, etc. Planning and preparation will be key as well as proper execution of tank switches/ch chains for the velious battles.

Can't be that different from most expansions on release and then after the guild has equiped themselves up which always trivialises (relatively ofcourse) those same encounters. Much like goin into kunark with none of it's loot when that came out (I don't know, I didn't start raiding until the end of velious when my guild already had most of the loot but I'd be suprised if the same didn't apply )

Is there any concern within TMO that once Velious does materlialise so many people may return that the numbers become unmanageable and beyond zerg? That could be problematic ?

[Funkutron5000]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wtf?

Pretty sure he means when shit died, when it will enter window, and how long the window is.

[Handull]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some stuff we haven't done that some members of your guild or FE has done. We never memblurred raid targets with the intention of getting them to Complete heal when we had no capability of killing that target. We have never supported or reinvited MQ/SEQ users(once discovered) into our guild. We have never had a GM in our guild specifically design raid rules to put our competition at a disadvantage(or less of an advantage). We have never gone against a rotation agreement when one was in affect. We have never avoided suspension when other partners in our raid team were suspended on a joint raid.

lol, like FE has done any of these things. keep trollin