Raiding scene changes proposal

[Tarathiel]

until rogean/nilbogs changes happen, nothing will happen, its already pretty apparent by the general direction of this thread that tmo has no intention of ever working with any guild for anything ever. they simply cannot be asked to abide by anything short of a gm ruling(and even then they will use every loop hole to their advantage) the only way things would change on p99 otherwise would be if multiple guilds formed up to create an even bigger zerg than tmo, and at that point people would just start making threads about that guild and the cycle would continue. its just the way of things around here

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

until rogean/nilbogs changes happen, nothing will happen, its already pretty apparent by the general direction of this thread that tmo has no intention of ever working with any guild for anything ever. they simply cannot be asked to abide by anything short of a gm ruling(and even then they will use every loop hole to their advantage) the only way things would change on p99 otherwise would be if multiple guilds formed up to create an even bigger zerg than tmo, and at that point people would just start making threads about that guild and the cycle would continue. its just the way of things around here

If you were capable of being objective you would notice that TMO has worked with many guilds in the past.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you were capable of being objective you would notice that TMO has worked with many guilds in the past.

using enraptured as a buffer to evade bans and throwin them some dkp to make up for the utter destruction of their reputation doesnt count

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

using enraptured as a buffer to evade bans and throwin them some dkp to make up for the utter destruction of their reputation doesnt count

We had a free dragon policy for awhile till BDA shit on that, we have raided with enraptured and taken to allow them to have mobs. We have stayed off engaged for Flawless Victory for hours at a time. We have stayed off engaging for almost anything Divinity is involved in. Even stayed engages for BDA before VD joined them.

We have brought guests on our raids to allow them to kilL Dwagons!. We have offered advice on kills to other guilds, even to the point of loaning or giving out resist gear.

Some stuff we haven't done that some members of your guild or FE has done. We never memblurred raid targets with the intention of getting them to Complete heal when we had no capability of killing that target. We have never supported or reinvited MQ/SEQ users(once discovered) into our guild. We have never had a GM in our guild specifically design raid rules to put our competition at a disadvantage(or less of an advantage). We have never gone against a rotation agreement when one was in affect. We have never avoided suspension when other partners in our raid team were suspended on a joint raid.

[Autotune]

I've given BDA, Taken and Divinity spawn timers and even told them how to get involved in the raiding scene ages ago.

They don't care, it's all about "what can you do for me now!?"


needy needy needy.

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've given BDA, Taken and Divinity spawn timers and even told them how to get involved in the raiding scene ages ago.

They don't care, it's all about "what can you do for me now!?"


needy needy needy.

word - the raiding scene is only fun with competition. I actually believe stealin when he says this.

easy kills - tons of loot (maxing out people to fast) actually hurts a guild allot of times. BURNOUT

[Llodd]

Perhaps Velious will be the worst thing to happen for TMO.

I mean, if theres too many raid target to go around, where will the competition be? (unless ofcourse all the talk of how much they like competition is just hot air)

Time will tell. Gonna be a long while yet.

[Funkutron5000]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wtf?

Pretty sure he means when shit died, when it will enter window, and how long the window is.

[Handull]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some stuff we haven't done that some members of your guild or FE has done. We never memblurred raid targets with the intention of getting them to Complete heal when we had no capability of killing that target. We have never supported or reinvited MQ/SEQ users(once discovered) into our guild. We have never had a GM in our guild specifically design raid rules to put our competition at a disadvantage(or less of an advantage). We have never gone against a rotation agreement when one was in affect. We have never avoided suspension when other partners in our raid team were suspended on a joint raid.

lol, like FE has done any of these things. keep trollin

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Handull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, like FE has done any of these things. keep trollin

Re read.... Members of your guild (implying BDA) and FE(members). Alot of these apply specifically to the VD players who are in BDA or FE.

Sorry, you were confused.