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06-17-2010, 10:06 PM
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Ya IB members do like to throw the Zerg word around a lot, i remember for a long time they were calling Transcendence a Zerg guild and then would show up with more people on average then we did, I just kind of funny how people can only see one side of the story.
As for the problem at hand if i was part of one of these guilds leadership i would ignore any of these trolls and hold a special guild meeting session and identify the issues at hand and work to solve them one at a time without dealing with the retards that call these forums home. Coming to the forums is never a good idea and you should of known that Nizzar, you guys all have my Vent info or should i suggest you get it done as its only going to get worse. | ||
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06-17-2010, 11:19 PM
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People need to stop calling this a discussion and admit what it really is; a forum for people to bitch about camping and throw out ridiculous ideas that would be even worse. From the beginning there has only been one guild saying "let us compete freely" while everyone else wants to try and impose rule, after rule, after rule, after rule. We could have been done with this weeks ago had DA just agreed to implement the rolling rule. For those of you who don't know about this suggestion I'll break it down: in lieu of the impending cold war camping situation, we suggested that if two guilds are camping the same mob they would roll for first shot when it popped. Ideally this should quickly kill the desire to camp raid mobs because then a guild could simply go follow around IB or DA and force us to roll no matter how many hours we put in. Is that the perfect answer to this situation? No. But what is more important imposing a more stringent set of rules such as a GM enforced rotation or at least getting people to stop camping so SolB doesn't have 70 people in zone? Or keeping afk people from sitting at the zone in to PoH so Europa, Remedy, Trans, Div, and whoever else doesn't have to do a regular clear with the lag and general nuisance of having 40+ other people sitting at the zone in? I will forever keep touting FFA with a first to engage rule and 99% of you will continue to ignore or debase it. Most people want the mobs handed to them without IB breathing down their neck. It's funny that these same people claim to want EQ to be classic. How is forcing us to have 15 people at a spawn point for days on end even remotely classic? I never saw a GM pop in to decide guild fights unless the training got ridiculous. So I still say take the gloves off and let us play. You guys simply wanting to experience a raid boss send me a tell, can probably work out letting you tag along. We do this on a regular basis with a few people per raid usually if you aren't fucking up. To those of you worried about training I'll say this. Everyone knows the reputation of the various guilds involved here, an FFA situation will only enhance those reputations. If some guild wants to train my guild while racing through FGs to naggy, I'm all for it. Then you guys can shut up once and for all about skill while we handle a 15 planar mob train and still manage to kill the boss just like when we were getting trained by ex-members of Trans back in the day. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Feelings would get hurt, but at least there's competition and a race. There's a reason to mobilize faster and work on guild cohesion. | |||
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06-17-2010, 11:40 PM
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This is why i don't post on this forum people twist your words and pull fucking quotes from all over. From day one i pushed for FFA, no rules, and was told over and over again that it will never happen so it is what it is and there's nothing else to talk about.
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06-17-2010, 11:43 PM
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06-17-2010, 11:45 PM
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06-17-2010, 11:53 PM
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I hope you, too, enjoy a long life and a peaceful ending in your own home and your own bed. That's despite the fact that I think you're a stupid lying motherfucker. | |||
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06-18-2010, 12:07 AM
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Like Alawen said pages and pages ago, once you guys stop camping the camping will stop. If we get rid of this trivial "first with 15" rule then people can actually compete and claim skill when a true race is on. Then, when some other guild rises up and decides to camp IB and DA can band together to put them back down. | |||
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