Raid Rules Alternative

[Aadill]

I don't think I'd like to play a game in where the consequences of one person's action, and their belief that they are right, will remove me from the game for a month. Perhaps the addition of code with a fake DT shout by the mob that would say who had first agro *would* be appropriate to clear up confusion, otherwise it's just going to be more GM involvement or everyone 'standing down' as one guild gets their way, leading to absolutely zero competition due to the fear of having no way to play for a month.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think I'd like to play a game in where the consequences of one person's action, and their belief that they are right, will remove me from the game for a month. Perhaps the addition of code with a fake DT shout by the mob that would say who had first agro *would* be appropriate to clear up confusion, otherwise it's just going to be more GM involvement or everyone 'standing down' as one guild gets their way, leading to absolutely zero competition due to the fear of having no way to play for a month.

A shout or even a say message on first aggro is not a bad idea at all. I like it a lot. In fact, devs, consider this an official request for a new feature. Many mobs already had this in classic... the whole "You've ruined your own lands. You'll not ruin mine!" thing. Just make sure there is such a message for all raid targets and that it references the name of the player with first aggro.

In the absence of that, each guild better recruit or train a good pull team and have spotters that can call off the dogs if their guild didn't get the first aggro. That puts the onus on the players to pay attention and develop skill, which imo, is always a good thing. If you as a individual in guild Y don't trust that your guild really did get the first aggro, I say just don't participate in the fight, and therefore avoid the ban. I wasn't advocating banning all members of a guild based on the actions of a portion of the guild.

[Deric]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A shout or even a say message on first aggro is not a bad idea at all. I like it a lot. In fact, devs, consider this an official request for a new feature. Many mobs already had this in classic... the whole "You've ruined your own lands. You'll not ruin mine!" thing. Just make sure there is such a message for all raid targets and that it references the name of the player with first aggro.

This would indeed alleviate challenges to who had "first aggro." Definitely support implementing this.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A shout or even a say message on first aggro is not a bad idea at all. I like it a lot. In fact, devs, consider this an official request for a new feature. Many mobs already had this in classic... the whole "You've ruined your own lands. You'll not ruin mine!" thing. Just make sure there is such a message for all raid targets and that it references the name of the player with first aggro.

First to hail the raid boss. Easy enough, everyone would also be able to see it.
Once everyone sees who hailed it first, the other guilds have to back off.

Of course this will most likely require a Monk, SK, Necro (or sacrificial ranger perhaps? JK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]), otherwise you would see raid wiping from being too close to the spawn location of the mob.

(That being said, I'm so against all this camping BS.)

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First to hail the raid boss. Easy enough, everyone would also be able to see it.

Hails can be faked.

put

/say Hail! Cazic Thule.

in a hotkey, spam that when you see him spawn, no need to target him or be in range.

But hey, at least we are talking about the details now. I'm glad a number of people seem to like the basic idea.

[Akame]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hails can be faked.

put

/say Hail! Cazic Thule.

in a hotkey, spam that when you see him spawn, no need to target him or be in range.

But hey, at least we are talking about the details now. I'm glad a number of people seem to like the basic idea.

I definitely like it, not sure how to keep it from being faked though, but keep talkin!

[Erasong]

bumping this. needs more debating. hopefully people havent given up on a solution