So your guns keep you safe?

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Tokage Sohei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IWithout an armed citizenry, it wouldn't be possible to form said militia if the need were to arise.

Oh no you didn't, lol. Think HARD about this before I have to knock the sails out of it.

[Tokage Sohei]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, I absolutely do. An equal amount of arbitrary decision-making power as every other idiot within these borders. That's the problem with democracy - idiots get to decide literally EVERYTHING.

Not to nitpick, but this is a republic, not a democracy. There is a difference and it does play a major role in your argument.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh no you didn't, lol. Think HARD about this before I have to knock the sails out of it.

I've said what I've said. I'll freely admit it was much more of a devil's advocate response from me, but the notion stands. I wouldn't bother posting if I didn't think I'd get at least a modicum of intelligent discourse out of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Tokage Sohei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to nitpick, but this is a republic, not a democracy. There is a difference and it does play a major role in your argument.

Actually we're neither. We're at best a heavily modified representative republic as you say, but more likely a unique government form euphemized as "American Democracy." That being said, many decisions DO in fact get made by masses of idiots.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Tokage Sohei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to nitpick, but this is a republic, not a democracy. There is a difference and it does play a major role in your argument.



I've said what I've said. I'll freely admit it was much more of a devil's advocate response from me, but the notion stands. I wouldn't bother posting if I didn't think I'd get at least a modicum of intelligent discourse out of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many states have have militias already:

State defense forces (SDF) (also known as state guards, state military reserves, or state militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are partially regulated by the National Guard Bureau but they are not a part of the Army National Guard of the United States.[1] State defense forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state.

Militias don't depend upon privately armed citizens anyway. The weapons are organized and stockpiled. People that are truly worried about federal tyranny should be advocates for their own state militias, or if they live in a state without one they should be advocating for the establishment of one.

[Tokage Sohei]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many states have have militias already:

State defense forces (SDF) (also known as state guards, state military reserves, or state militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are partially regulated by the National Guard Bureau but they are not a part of the Army National Guard of the United States.[1] State defense forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state.

Militias don't depend upon privately armed citizens anyway. The weapons are organized and stockpiled. People that are truly worried about federal tyranny should be advocates for their own state militias, or if they live in a state without one they should be advocating for the establishment of one.

State government is no less prone to tyranny than the federal government. I don't consider myself one of the tin-foil hat wearing types that expects collapse around every corner, but if one accepts the 2nd amendment as a protection from a tyrannical government, then protection from the state government must be considered as well and a state run militia does not provide such protection.

[Humerox]

I've pretty much argued myself out on this issue. I'll work on advocating stricter gun legislation, and you guys can keep advocating against people like me.

If the price we have to pay to maintain the status quo is Newtown and the 60 other massacres in the US in the last 30 years...God help us all.

[Arclyte]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've pretty much argued myself out on this issue. I'll work on advocating stricter gun legislation, and you guys can keep advocating against people like me.

If the price we have to pay to maintain the status quo is Newtown and the 60 other massacres in the US in the last 30 years...God help us all.

lol, cut the bullshit, you don't advocate anything and I doubt you even care

You and Hitchens should ask yourselves why you've really been arguing about guns for 25 pages, and try not to lie to yourself or it won't work.

In the meantime, I will be enjoying my right to keep and maintain weapons. Not because I'm paranoid or because I need them to "hunt" (I don't), but because I like having them, and I don't live in some delusional limp-wristed nanny state.

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In summation: eat a dick

[Littlegyno 9.0]

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, cut the bullshit, you don't advocate anything and I doubt you even care

You and Hitchens should ask yourselves why you've really been arguing about guns for 25 pages, and try not to lie to yourself or it won't work.

In the meantime, I will be enjoying my right to keep and maintain weapons. Not because I'm paranoid or because I need them to "hunt" (I don't), but because I like having them, and I don't live in some delusional limp-wristed nanny state.

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In summation: eat a dick

Are those M1's or M14s?

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You and Hitchens should ask yourselves why you've really been arguing about guns for 25 pages, and try not to lie to yourself or it won't work.

I have 0.84 posts per day. How did I get blamed for a 25 page thread?

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, cut the bullshit, you don't advocate anything and I doubt you even care

You and Hitchens should ask yourselves why you've really been arguing about guns for 25 pages, and try not to lie to yourself or it won't work.

In the meantime, I will be enjoying my right to keep and maintain weapons. Not because I'm paranoid or because I need them to "hunt" (I don't), but because I like having them, and I don't live in some delusional limp-wristed nanny state.

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In summation: eat a dick

Hey Arclyte...nothing personal but:

Fuck you.

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