Is this classic?? (the official tmo cheats thread)

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stop
think
ambrotos
mass banning
timeline
stop
think
some
more
then
post
again

/dust's off his detective hat......


ok, well ambrotos was not a GM during the mass banning so one must assume he is talking about people banned since then. i still cannot recall a single member of BDA that was popped, so that either means that A. they admitted to us that they were banned and just fell off the map, or B. they lied about being banned and went on an "extended break." in either case i have no sympathy, if a member of BDA was caught cheating then let them be known to the officers so that something can be done about it. either way, if members of bda were banned, they were not raiders or important members of the guild because afaik most of our "core" members are accounted for.

not being defensive just stating the facts as i know them, if someone has info that i dont feel free to share, im all for equal opportunity banning, TMO, BDA,, IB i dont care if you cheat you need to face the hammer

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/dust's off his detective hat......


ok, well ambrotos was not a GM during the mass banning so one must assume he is talking about people banned since then. i still cannot recall a single member of BDA that was popped, so that either means that A. they admitted to us that they were banned and just fell off the map, or B. they lied about being banned and went on an "extended break." in either case i have no sympathy, if a member of BDA was caught cheating then let them be known to the officers so that something can be done about it. either way, if members of bda were banned, they were not raiders or important members of the guild because afaik most of our "core" members are accounted for.

not being defensive just stating the facts as i know them, if someone has info that i dont feel free to share, im all for equal opportunity banning, TMO, BDA,, IB i dont care if you cheat you need to face the hammer

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I ended up banning more people in VD IB and BDA than in TMO. The illusion that the hard core raiders cheat more is pretty far off on this server. It's the more casual under lvl50 people who have done it the most. I can count up to only 6 people or so were banned and 5 were for 2boxing the past few months after IB and VD dissolved.

Every raid attended was checked when I was able to log in for ,for boxers and showeq or MQ. Don't sink down to the red99 forum trolls and think everything is bad. However I fully agree with Nilbog, but I would rather a player hall of shame in game with the peoples name.

1) He talks about who he personally has banned (which is weird, if he is/was VD *Bisch*, he isn't supposed to deal with people from his guild), but anyhow.

2) People who are banned, are never (read: rarely) made public. So unless the person came forth to say they were banned, you'd not know who they were. They could have simply changed mains, taken an "extended break" or what have you or even could have been like Ambrotos suggests, someone who is new and not a raider (casual person under lvl 50)

3) I agree, no sympathy. Perma ban the accounts. Preferably delete the account/character/items and free up some space.

[Autotune]

I personally like Bisch btw (and Ambrotos). I really have nothing against him.

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) He talks about who he personally has banned (which is weird, if he is/was VD *Bisch*, he isn't supposed to deal with people from his guild), but anyhow.

2) People who are banned, are never (read: rarely) made public. So unless the person came forth to say they were banned, you'd not know who they were. They could have simply changed mains, taken an "extended break" or what have you or even could have been like Ambrotos suggests, someone who is new and not a raider (casual person under lvl 50)

3) I agree, no sympathy. Perma ban the accounts. Preferably delete the account/character/items and free up some space.

I was allowed to since I was pretty much the only guide for a while, while Amelinda was lead gm. I just had to have everything I did recorded or logged although it didn't matter since I quit playing when I was allowed to be more involved. So everything I did was always double checked.

Like I said I ended up banning more people who were friends of mine in game. I never tolerated cheaters.

The hardest part about the mq showed flag is that I would have to type in a players name on the website and search their profile. Doing this for over 3000 accounts isn't even remotely doable. Even then Rogean would have to double check and make sure its a positive flag. I know he is making things much easier for Sirken and the new guides, I only was able to see the tip of the changes. It's pretty impressive with what he is doing.