Spells: Enchanter mez and memblur

[guineapig]

I don't think it has anything to do with the level of the mob:

Memory Blur
Slot Description
1: Memblur (10%)

They are nowhere near 100% reliable. Each cast is exactly 10% reliable, but this goes for any mob that you can successfully cast it on, regardless of level.


Mind Wipe
Slot Description
1: Memblur (15%)


Blanket of Forgetfulness
Slot Description
1: Memblur (20%)
2: Memblur (20%)

Reoccurring Amnesia
Slot Description
1: Memblur (25%)
4 tics

[Dersk]

I don't think it has anything to do with the level of the mob:

Memory Blur
Slot Description
1: Memblur (10%)

I've explicitly stated I'm talking about the mesmerize spells. I suppose I'll have to reinstall EQLive and record a video (or screenshots if it doesn't work), because it seems people don't care to look at anything beyond lucy, which has several 'unknown' IDs.

I'd be more than willing to look at something from actual gameplay that contradicts the claims made in the links I've posted, though.

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think it has anything to do with the level of the mob:

Let's have a serious question here. What will you do to explain the situation when I get back on EQlive when I mez a critter, wait until mesmerize wears off, and it continues on its way as if I did nothing?

I'll check memory blur while I'm at it.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Dersk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's have a serious question here. What will you do to explain the situation when I get back on EQlive when I mez a critter, wait until mesmerize wears off, and it continues on its way as if I did nothing?

I'll check memory blur while I'm at it.

I will respond with this P99 isn't EQLive and EQLive isn't EQ Classic.
Sorry, that's the best I can come up with. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Malrubius]

Those Lucy percentages don't jive with what I saw in classic at all. I remember being aware that memblur could fail, but it succeeded very often (perhaps more often than not).

Dersk - sorry to have derailed the thread further. I know now that you are concerned with Mez's memblur component. I agree that the Lucy numbers look off there too, relative to what was in Classic, but I have no proof.

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dersk - sorry to have derailed the thread further. I know now that you are concerned with Mez's memblur component. I agree that the Lucy numbers look off there too, relative to what was in Classic, but I have no proof.

I don't even know if the memory blur spells themselves are working, as I don't have access to them on p1999 yet. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pudge]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those Lucy percentages don't jive with what I saw in classic at all. I remember being aware that memblur could fail, but it succeeded very often (perhaps more often than not).

Same. I remember when sullon came out, crushbone we would CONSTANTLY memblur/nuke mobs and steal exp from groups that were on the mob, with just one blur/nuke. And it would almost always work. The way i thought blurs worked back then, was that they erased a specific amount of hate/"damage count" (because not all hate is damage) for each person... but maybe it was just a flat 80% success rate, i don't know.

When trying to get rid of agro, if one cast didn't do it, then 2 probably was enough, although it seemed to be less reliable as you leveled / as time passed (maybe the mechanics changed somewhere... i remember in my higher levels it wasn't as reliable as low).

Also mez would make them forget you but only like 1/10. (again i remember it blurring more than that in early levels.. maybe due to differences in how charisma was factored in?)

[Dersk]

edit: I apologize for the ads.

Mesmerize blurring a wolf and snake. It's a level 5 enchanter to show the caster level isn't relevant.

Mesmerization, the AE mez, successfully blurring kobolds in the warrens. While illegible, the yellow 'worn off' messages are very clear. I do not have any AA's in enhanced forgetfulness.

Mesmerization used to blur the memory of Emperor Crush and Ambasador D'Vinn. I used bind sight since I can get proximity agro even while invisible.

Mesmerize used on several orcs in crushbone.

All of this is done with a spell that has a 1% chance to blur.

Feign Death used to successfully drop agro from several skeletons in Kurn's. I reference this because it works with the same accuracy across the same level range.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will respond with this P99 isn't EQLive and EQLive isn't EQ Classic.

You are, however, using EQLIVE values from lucy to argue this point.

I have provided first hand accounts, webarchived spell descriptions and posts, and have now given a video to clearly illustrate and prove the mechanic I am describing.

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