Power leveling should be banned.

[Snagglepuss]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool story bro, I'm happy you had/have the fortitude and time to max-level multiple characters throughout your EQ career. I have too ! the fact is, 12 years later, I could care less about the 'leveling experience' 'the path to 60' or whatever other bullshit people want to claim. I've done it enough already and so have many other people. Some people didn't have a chance to experience raiding or end game content and would rather power level through the earlier ones to meet their expectations.

Protip: 12 year old content isn't challenging.

Protip: 12 year old content gets more challenging because of complete information. Everyone knows the rules. Efficiency.

Chess is 500 years old and never gets old. It constantly reinvents itself for the same reason. It's the premise of game theory.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Snagglepuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Protip: 12 year old content gets more challenging because of complete information. Everyone knows the rules. Efficiency.

Chess is 500 years old and never gets old. It constantly reinvents itself for the same reason. It's the premise of game theory.

please go lick some windows. why is it always someone with downs feels they have to call me out.

PROHINT: You're playing chess against another person, not Lady Vox or Lord Nagafen.

Check and mate.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PROHINT: You're playing chess against another person, not Lady Vox or Lord Nagafen.

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[Snagglepuss]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

please go lick some windows. why is it always someone with downs feels they have to call me out.

PROHINT: You're playing chess against another person, not Lady Vox or Lord Nagafen.

Check and mate.

Here's a perfect example of why players get frustrated. People resort to name calling and put downs.

Yes, you are playing chess against a person-- as you playing an MMORPG against other players. When you understand all the possible piece movements, mechanics, and methods much like a player understands a 12 year old game, it is going to make competition even fiercer and the game more challenging because the game has evolved.

There's nothing wrong with PLing- bottom line. But don't do it at the expense of others.

It's everyone's sandbox so don't shit in it.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Snagglepuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you are playing chess against a person-- as you playing an MMORPG against other players. When you understand all the possible piece movements, mechanics, and methods much like a player understands a 12 year old game, it is going to make competition even fiercer and the game more challenging because the game has evolved.

You are playing against an NPC, NPC's that have been slain over and over again until maximum efficiency is achieved (sometime about 10 years ago). All mechanics, methods and movements have been scoured over by hundreds of people over many years. All exp spots have been mapped out and loot tables readily available.

No new strategies have been invented, no new quests are available, you're not going to come up with anything ground breaker that hasn't been done before.

You talk about fiercer competition like it has ANYTHING to do with game mechanics and not to do with neckbeards and bat phones.

Please stop talking. You're clearly wrong.

[Snagglepuss]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are playing against an NPC, NPC's that have been slain over and over again until maximum efficiency is achieved (sometime about 10 years ago). All mechanics, methods and movements have been scoured over by hundreds of people over many years. All exp spots have been mapped out and loot tables readily available.

No new strategies have been invented, no new quests are available, you're not going to come up with anything ground breaker that hasn't been done before.

You talk about fiercer competition like it has ANYTHING to do with game mechanics and not to do with neckbeards and bat phones.

Please stop talking. You're clearly wrong.

I'm sorry you're right. You don't play against other players in EQ. They don't have any influence on the game. In fact, EQ isn't an MMORPG at all!

Also, people make up new chess moves all the time. They even add new pieces all the time. I think the board squares change all the time just like Norrath does so no one can remember any opening moves or can master any spawn location or quest.

I mean this site doesn't tell you how to play every single opening, trap or gambit.

http://www.eudesign.com/chessops/ch-index.htm

This site doesn't tell you how to beat bosses...

http://wiki.project1999.org/Category:Raid_Encounters

I totally forgot that complete information does not lead to efficiency. That's why market arbitrage doesn't exist; no one makes any money playing poker; and for god's sake that's why no one can look up information on a wiki and know exactly how to beat any boss or mob. It certainly doesn't make for more competition for camps or good exp spots...

And most of all both games haven't been scoured by hundreds of players for many years looking to exploit every strategy...

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Snagglepuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry you're right. You don't play against other players in EQ. They don't have any influence on the game. In fact, EQ isn't an MMORPG at all!

Also, people make up new chess moves all the time. They even add new pieces all the time. I think the board squares change all the time just like Norrath does so no one can remember any opening moves or can master any spawn location or quest.

I mean this site doesn't tell you how to play every single opening, trap or gambit.

http://www.eudesign.com/chessops/ch-index.htm

This site doesn't tell you how to beat bosses...

http://wiki.project1999.org/Category:Raid_Encounters

I totally forgot that complete information does not lead to efficiency. That's why market arbitrage doesn't exist; no one makes any money playing poker; and for god's sake that's why no one can look up information on a wiki and know exactly how to beat any boss or mob. It certainly doesn't make for more competition for camps or good exp spots...

And most of all both games haven't been scoured by hundreds of players for many years looking to exploit every strategy...

Do I really need to post the sites THAT DO tell you how to beat every boss ?

Like how fucking daft are you ? Please continue to compare EQ to chess, while we all give 0 fucks.

Originally Posted by Noudess [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly is your point?

MY point is, Power leveling is far from cheating or exploiting. You're literally making it up to support your argument. It's been classic since day one. If you can't adapt to a strategy thats been used since there was a first ever lvl 50 druid, I don't know what to tell you.

[Snagglepuss]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do I really need to post the sites THAT DO tell you how to beat every boss ?

Like how fucking daft are you ? Please continue to compare EQ to chess, while we all give 0 fucks.



MY point is, Power leveling is far from cheating or exploiting. You're literally making it up to support your argument. It's been classic since day one. If you can't adapt to a strategy thats been used since there was a first ever lvl 50 druid, I don't know what to tell you.

LOL you got me. I'm being trolled.

I thought you just didn't get my sarcasm and caustic, biting remarks...