Charm soloing; any tips out there?

[guineapig]

To get you started try to obtain the following items through auction, jewelrycraft or just camping them:

platinum star ruby veil +9
(2X) electrum star ruby ring +14
platinum cat's eye neck. +9
(2X) golden cat's eye bracer. +14
crude stein +15
noble's robes +6
siryn hair hood +13
(2x) Opalline Earring +10
Rod of Insidious Glamour +12
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Total = 102

Get a buff:
radiant visage (buff) +30
(the shaman charisma buff is even better I think)
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grand total = 132 (or better)

If you are a high elf you can put all your starting stats into stamina and int and still have 90 base charisma which would already put you at 222 Charisma.

Hope this helps somewhat.

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To get you started try to obtain the following items through auction, jewelrycraft or just camping them:

platinum star ruby veil +9
(2X) electrum star ruby ring +14
platinum cat's eye neck. +9
(2X) golden cat's eye bracer. +14
crude stein +15
noble's robes +6
siryn hair hood +13
(2x) Opalline Earring +10
Rod of Insidious Glamour +12
---------------------------
Total = 102

Get a buff:
radiant visage (buff) +30
(the shaman charisma buff is even better I think)
-------------------------
grand total = 132 (or better)

If you are a high elf you can put all your starting stats into stamina and int and still have 90 base charisma which would already put you at 222 Charisma.

Hope this helps somewhat.

Thanks gp - this helps a ton. A few things I've been wondering about...

1 - Would you say that CHA has a much bigger impact (on charm duration) here than it did in Classic EQ?

2 - CHA has a smaller impact here than it did a few months ago, correct?

3 - Would you say that MR has a much bigger impact (on charm duration) than CHA does - just like in Classic?

[pickled_heretic]

Could a jeweler post prices for the cha jewelry listed here or send me a PM?

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could a jeweler post prices for the cha jewelry listed here or send me a PM?

gold bars cost 10pp a piece, platinum bars cost 100pp a piece.

All the gems you need are available in the blue building in NFP (too lazy to look up the prices at the moment [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ).

Don't let anyone mark up the price too far on you. Obviously they need to make up for skill-up costs but some people can get mad greedy.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks gp - this helps a ton. A few things I've been wondering about...

1 - Would you say that CHA has a much bigger impact (on charm duration) here than it did in Classic EQ?

I'm not the best person to ask. General consensus is that people back in '99 did not know as much about game mechanics as they do now and usually gave up on charm as a reliable play method until the advent of Dire Charm (PoP era).

I sadly fall into this category, I never attempted to max out my charisma on live before I hit level 65 and by then I had dire charm.

2 - CHA has a smaller impact here than it did a few months ago, correct?

I can vouch for this but I cannot say how much less. It used to be that if your charisma was 201 you could have a charm last full duration without much worry. Recently I had Lava Beetles breaking charm occasionally after a minute or two (at around 232 charisma) , but sometimes lasting as much as ten.
(I don't charm unless I have to so I have not been keeping notes on this stuff.)

3 - Would you say that MR has a much bigger impact (on charm duration) than CHA does - just like in Classic?

I can definitely see a big impact on the magic resistance of mobs. Trying to charm a white con mob in the planes, even after landing tash = pain.

Certain blue con mobs in the planes will also break charm after only a minute or two even with both tash and malo.

I recall 2 of us having Clerics of Innoruk charmed during a Maestro raid recently where both chanters had well over 200 charisma but still had to recharm our pets a couple times before we engaged as well as during the fight.
On the other hand I could charm a kobold in solb and probably not worry about it for a good 12-13 minutes.



Hope I'm helping more than confusing...

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not the best person to ask. General consensus is that people back in '99 did not know as much about game mechanics as they do now and usually gave up on charm as a reliable play method until the advent of Dire Charm (PoP era).

I sadly fall into this category, I never attempted to max out my charisma on live before I hit level 65 and by then I had dire charm.



I can vouch for this but I cannot say how much less. It used to be that if your charisma was 201 you could have a charm last full duration without much worry. Recently I had Lava Beetles breaking charm occasionally after a minute or two (at around 232 charisma) , but sometimes lasting as much as ten.
(I don't charm unless I have to so I have not been keeping notes on this stuff.)



I can definitely see a big impact on the magic resistance of mobs. Trying to charm a white con mob in the planes, even after landing tash = pain.

Certain blue con mobs in the planes will also break charm after only a minute or two even with both tash and malo.

I recall 2 of us having Clerics of Innoruk charmed during a Maestro raid recently where both chanters had well over 200 charisma but still had to recharm our pets a couple times before we engaged as well as during the fight.
On the other hand I could charm a kobold in solb and probably not worry about it for a good 12-13 minutes.



Hope I'm helping more than confusing...

No, that helps a lot. One thing I noticed though...

Ten minutes? 12-13 minutes!?!? This surprises me since in classic the max was about 7:30. Hopefully that's bugged (I'll bug it myself once I'm high enough level to start noticing it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ).

[Landis]

charm definitely lasted for 10+ minutes at level 60 in live, kunark era.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, that helps a lot. One thing I noticed though...

Ten minutes? 12-13 minutes!?!? This surprises me since in classic the max was about 7:30. Hopefully that's bugged (I'll bug it myself once I'm high enough level to start noticing it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ).

Sorry I should have added I'm using Dazzle. The lower level spells have lower max durations.