Spells: Enchanter mez and memblur

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, memblur has never been a no-fail situation. Even the GM Memblur lol.

1st, it's how the spell works on live and has done so for years. I can't find any comments or patch notes saying it has ever changed.

http://web.archive.org/web/200105050...asp?SpellID=20
A mesmerised monster also has around a 95% chance of having its Hate List wiped, similiar to the effects of Memory Blur. Just make sure you are beyond the frenzy range when it wears off to ensure success.

The difference here between their 95% chance and my claim of 100% chance can be explained by refreshing mez, which doesn't mem blur, or assist agro. That same bit is listed on the spell information for all the mezes.

http://web.archive.org/web/200105050...sp?SpellID=115
Now, if I Entrance/Enthrall/Mesmerize a mob and leave, it *NEVER* comes after me

http://web.archive.org/web/200405282...et/spells4.htm

The runes said "wipe hate list", not % chance. That's a bit vague, but no where have I found evidence of mez being unable to wipe the hate list.

The blur is a no-fail situation, and I'm kinda surprised someone could have played an enchanter and not notice that. The only limitation that I've ever been able to verify is that a refreshed mez will not blur, but alternating mezes, i.e. using enthrall to overwrite a mesmerize, will properly blur.

In response to tests showing 100% blur rate from '04:

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewt...hp?f=15&t=5300

Guard E'Brona is level 15. If I recall correctly, before level 35, monsters are highly, if not completely, susceptible to memory blur. After 35, memory blur doesn't work that reliably.

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Dersk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The blur is a no-fail situation, and I'm kinda surprised someone could have played an enchanter and not notice that.

Memblur was definitely NOT a no-fail situation in classic. I definitely remember times when I needed to recast it (General Bragmur for the 8th shawl comes to mind) when the first blur didn't wipe.

Your quote above from therunes even says "After 35, memory blur doesn't work that reliably. "

If I had to guess, I would say it worked about 90% of the time (post 35 anyway - never really played with it before that).


Mez could and did wipe the hate list as well (in Classic). In fact, I recall that it *very often* wiped the hate list in Classic, but not as reliably as Memblur.

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Memblur was definitely NOT a no-fail situation in classic. I definitely remember times when I needed to recast it (General Bragmur for the 8th shawl comes to mind) when the first blur didn't wipe.

General Bragmur is level 40, which is relevantly higher than 35. My original post, the posts I have quoted, and the current workings on EQlive apply to mobs under level 35, though I'll admit the older castersrealm info doesn't appear to know enough to clarify that distinction. I know that the memory blur effects of mezzes are not 100% reliable above level 35. I avoided listing it every single time because I really didn't want to be too repetitive hah.

As far as the memory blur spell, I have never tested it on EQlive nor have I accessed it on P1999, so I can't really comment one way or the other. I was attempting to describe the memory blur effect of mesmerize spells. I do apologize if that got confusing.

If what I've given isn't appropriate for verifying the specific mechanics I'm describing, then simply let me know what would be considered sufficient proof, so I know what to look for. Hell, if I have to go to WeGame and record a video of me mezzing level 1 mobs on EQlive then I'll consider it.