TMO proves there skill once more.

[baramur]

It is simple game mechanics yet you put on your innocent "We have morals" coat and suppose to be magically just and true. The sk has said he aggrod the mobs the monk fd. Proximity agro will not beat out social agro. Those mobs, that aggrod him above running to zone, were then brought to zone in. Then TMO camped out while the sk got more mobs on agro then fd and all those mobs trained FE raid force. Xanthius or whatever his name was trained the raid, now whether intentional or not he still trained. You said you only came up because fe was going up, FE had been there clearing for an hour. You ported up, trained when you didnt get fte, then proceeded to kill maestro. Douchebags.

[Kingore]

Xanthias I believe is on a break, no? FE confirmed no idea what happened as they don't even know who trained them other than "some sk". Good thing eccezan removed him from guild.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Kingore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xanthias I believe is on a break, no? FE confirmed no idea what happened as they don't even know who trained them other than "some sk". Good thing eccezan removed him from guild.

Xanthias is also a ranger hahaha

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by baramur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xanthius or whatever his name was trained the raid, now whether intentional or not he still trained. Douchebags.

[cs616]

There was certainly two different waves of adds. The first was 3 clerics and a spite, in addition to a loathing lich that was already in camp. Who aggroed that is anyone's guess. The second wave is the one I think is more questionable.

Talenos engaged Maestro:
[Fri Nov 30 08:47:39 2012] Talenos tries to slash Maestro of Rancor, but misses!

Almost two minutes later the second second wave consisting of numerous mobs including a second spite golem, kiraikuei, abhorrent, ire ghast and forsaken revenant came. It was larger than just 5 mobs but the first mention of new unique mob names in my logs appears at:

[Fri Nov 30 08:49:28 2012] A forsaken revenant hits Zorokk for 57 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:32 2012] An ire ghast tries to hit Zorokk, but misses!
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:36 2012] An abhorrent tries to hit Arttamis, but misses!
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:37 2012] A kiraikuei hits Houdiny for 117 points of damage.

The players hit in those logs were in camp from the time of engage until getting that aggro as my logs continuously show them attacking the mob. I know this isn't conclusive and I'm certain there could be some other explanation for it. However, Xadion was out there pulling and our pullers were in camp for almost 2 minutes prior to that additional aggro. I'm definitely biased being a member of FE but to me it looked like there was outside raid interference. Even if the first train was our it was locked down for almost 2 minutes and Maestro was around 50%. The mobs that actually caused a wipe was the second one.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was certainly two different waves of adds. The first was 3 clerics and a spite, in addition to a loathing lich that was already in camp. Who aggroed that is anyone's guess. The second wave is the one I think is more questionable.

Talenos engaged Maestro:
[Fri Nov 30 08:47:39 2012] Talenos tries to slash Maestro of Rancor, but misses!

Almost two minutes later the second second wave consisting of numerous mobs including a second spite golem, kiraikuei, abhorrent, ire ghast and forsaken revenant came. It was larger than just 5 mobs but the first mention of new unique mob names in my logs appears at:

[Fri Nov 30 08:49:28 2012] A forsaken revenant hits Zorokk for 57 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:32 2012] An ire ghast tries to hit Zorokk, but misses!
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:36 2012] An abhorrent tries to hit Arttamis, but misses!
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:37 2012] A kiraikuei hits Houdiny for 117 points of damage.

The players hit in those logs were in camp from the time of engage until getting that aggro as my logs continuously show them attacking the mob. I know this isn't conclusive and I'm certain there could be some other explanation for it. However, Xadion was out there pulling and our pullers were in camp for almost 2 minutes prior to that additional aggro. I'm definitely biased being a member of FE but to me it looked like there was outside raid interference. Even if the first train was our it was locked down for almost 2 minutes and Maestro was around 50%. The mobs that actually caused a wipe was the second one.

Not a huge fan of forceful penetration but... Good post. So you are saying the second wave of mobs that came 2 min after you all had engaged Maestro is what killed you guys? That's so odd, almost as if the train was intentional! But this is hard to believe for sure... Tmo always raids with the highest and most ethical standards. /popcorn. But please!! Continue!

[quido]

Somebody's gotta have a video of this, cmon.

[Rovas]

Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was certainly two different waves of adds. The first was 3 clerics and a spite, in addition to a loathing lich that was already in camp. Who aggroed that is anyone's guess. The second wave is the one I think is more questionable.

Talenos engaged Maestro:
[Fri Nov 30 08:47:39 2012] Talenos tries to slash Maestro of Rancor, but misses!

Almost two minutes later the second second wave consisting of numerous mobs including a second spite golem, kiraikuei, abhorrent, ire ghast and forsaken revenant came. It was larger than just 5 mobs but the first mention of new unique mob names in my logs appears at:

[Fri Nov 30 08:49:28 2012] A forsaken revenant hits Zorokk for 57 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:32 2012] An ire ghast tries to hit Zorokk, but misses!
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:36 2012] An abhorrent tries to hit Arttamis, but misses!
[Fri Nov 30 08:49:37 2012] A kiraikuei hits Houdiny for 117 points of damage.

The players hit in those logs were in camp from the time of engage until getting that aggro as my logs continuously show them attacking the mob. I know this isn't conclusive and I'm certain there could be some other explanation for it. However, Xadion was out there pulling and our pullers were in camp for almost 2 minutes prior to that additional aggro. I'm definitely biased being a member of FE but to me it looked like there was outside raid interference. Even if the first train was our it was locked down for almost 2 minutes and Maestro was around 50%. The mobs that actually caused a wipe was the second one.

YOUR "FACTS" HAVE NO PLACE HERE!!! TMO MAKES THE FACTS HERE, PAL!!

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Rovas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

YOUR "FACTS" HAVE NO PLACE HERE!!! TMO MAKES THE FACTS HERE, PAL!!

The only facts presented by that log is that FE members were being attacked 2 mins after maestro was killed. A good idea would be to post the ENTIRE log. Everything else is just assumption.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Rovas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO MAKES THE FACTS HERE, PAL!!

this made me lol at work