Red and blue should be merged into one PvP server

[mwatt]

The post made by the OP was wishful self-centered thinking on the part of the poster (yeah, I know, he is trying to "help" us bloobies discover the joy that is PVP). It was also a sad commentary on what the MMO world has become.

As MMOs have evolved, PVP has become more and more prevalent - probably partly due to the success of WoW and also partly due to the fact that there is a large percentage of the gaming population that enjoy PVP.

Personally, I don't like PVP and I don't like the baggage that comes along with it. I know there is a significant percentage of MMO players who feel similarly. Classic EQ is one of the last bastions of "mostly pure" PVE. Why in the HELL do people feel the need to try and take even that away? The damned Red server is there, isn't that enough? Oh no, we should all be forced to play PVP. The nerve of some people.

[Cippofra]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The post made by the OP was wishful self-centered thinking on the part of the poster (yeah, I know, he is trying to "help" us bloobies discover the joy that is PVP). It was also a sad commentary on what the MMO world has become.

As MMOs have evolved, PVP has become more and more prevalent - probably partly due to the success of WoW and also partly due to the fact that there is a large percentage of the gaming population that enjoy PVP.

Personally, I don't like PVP and I don't like the baggage that comes along with it. I know there is a significant percentage of MMO players who feel similarly. Classic EQ is one of the last bastions of "mostly pure" PVE. Why in the HELL do people feel the need to try and take even that away? The damned Red server is there, isn't that enough? Oh no, we should all be forced to play PVP. The nerve of some people.

WoW's pvp is challenging. Theres collective goals to work towards. And it's optional. Really even optional on a pvp server, where I played. The few pvp encounters I had in the pve world were just a little bit of fun. Someone might kill you before they zone into an instance, but they'd move on and forget about you. EQ's pvp is about making it as difficult as possible for people under you to advance to the point that you are at. People don't move on because being able to kill a healer 4 levels below you over and over for an hour is enjoyable when you aren't good enough or too selfish to hack it in the pve world.

[Anesthia]

Originally Posted by Cippofra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WoW's pvp is challenging. Theres collective goals to work towards. And it's optional. Really even optional on a pvp server, where I played. The few pvp encounters I had in the pve world were just a little bit of fun. Someone might kill you before they zone into an instance, but they'd move on and forget about you. EQ's pvp is about making it as difficult as possible for people under you to advance to the point that you are at. People don't move on because being able to kill a healer 4 levels below you over and over for an hour is enjoyable when you aren't good enough or too selfish to hack it in the pve world.

Yes and no on WoW's PvP being challenging (I'm splitting hairs), but I would agree that it attracts a long-term playerbase much more than EQ's PvP. There are several different approaches that could be taken to make EQ PvP more appealing, but basically anything that isn't classic derails the nostalgia train, which is what pretty much everybody on red/blue rides. If red wants to reach 100+ regularly, it would need people who care more about PvP for PvP's sake than griefing just because they can.

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by Cippofra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WoW's pvp is challenging. Theres collective goals to work towards. And it's optional. Really even optional on a pvp server, where I played. The few pvp encounters I had in the pve world were just a little bit of fun. Someone might kill you before they zone into an instance, but they'd move on and forget about you. EQ's pvp is about making it as difficult as possible for people under you to advance to the point that you are at. People don't move on because being able to kill a healer 4 levels below you over and over for an hour is enjoyable when you aren't good enough or too selfish to hack it in the pve world.

as a current wow player

no, wow's pvp isnt challenging. Everything is gear/composition based.