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Old 11-12-2012, 10:11 PM
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Fairness is a function of the rules in place. If the rules themselves are skewed or exhibit favoritism, or if the rules are redefined such that the parties involved were not aware of the 'new' rules before they engaged in their actions, this is what defines unfairness.

FE was formed to compete under these existing rules. We agree that they are fucked up and would like a different set of rules. If FE was in the position TMO was, we would work for a different set of rules. This does not change the fact that we decided to play the game that YOU have been playing for a very long time under the shitty system the current rules give us. Do not turn this around on everyone else now that people are actually trying to play the FTE game with you - if TMO did not like this, THEY could have changed this.

We all know the rules. We all know the limits of the rules. This case does not break the limitations of FTE. Just because TMO was 'under CT' does not matter even one fucking bit. Even FTE shouts would have to be overturned in the case of this ruling.
Yes, FTE shouts are potentially able to be overturned. Sniping was a concern of Sirken (with CT as the example too), and the suggested solution is to make them informative but non-binding.

If you want to argue that the "rules" need to be followed by the letter, it is a demonstrable fact that P99 uses a form of common law. Rogean, Amelinda, Uthgaard, and now Ephi have all issued rulings and interpretations on the spot or on the forums that modified or impacted written rules. To claim that written that the "P99 Code of Laws" stands alone isn't entirely true. GM Formed interpretation and common law also controls and shapes it.

I agree that FTE sniping is stupid, but I disagree that GM's have no interpretive leeway. I do agree that it is good policy to codify everything, as much as possible, before hand, but I disagree that the codified rules are immune to GM interpretation and good-faith situational modification.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:19 PM
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Yes, FTE shouts are potentially able to be overturned. Sniping was a concern of Sirken (with CT as the example too), and the suggested solution is to make them informative but non-binding.

If you want to argue that the "rules" need to be followed by the letter, it is a demonstrable fact that P99 uses a form of common law. Rogean, Amelinda, Uthgaard, and now Ephi have all issued rulings and interpretations on the spot or on the forums that modified or impacted written rules. To claim that written that the "P99 Code of Laws" stands alone isn't entirely true. GM Formed interpretation and common law also controls and shapes it.

I agree that FTE sniping is stupid, but I disagree that GM's have no interpretive leeway. I do agree that it is good policy to codify everything, as much as possible, before hand, but I disagree that the codified rules are immune to GM interpretation and good-faith situational modification.
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