And I raaaaaan, I raaaan so far awaaaayyyy

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question: Assume TMO was not near CT when Scorchin was DT'd. Was it more likely than not that CT would have reset before any puller could have gotten on the aggro list after Scorchin's DT?

In short, had TMO waited ~two more seconds to engage, would Scorchin's aggro have been erased from the kill due to mob reset?

If he fully reset, and went back to banging his scratching post, then yes. Since the first encounter list ends after he is dt'ed and not re-aggroed.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If he fully reset, and went back to banging his scratching post, then yes. Since the first encounter list ends after he is dt'ed and not re-aggroed.

Derp, so we engage a mob take the first dt and you honestly think Scorchin thought he had a chance to pull it? The wool is over your eyes friend. There is nothing honest about this pull. It was clearly an FTE snipe attempt there was 0 chance of a pull.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derp, so we engage a mob take the first dt and you honestly think Scorchin thought he had a chance to pull it? The wool is over your eyes friend. There is nothing honest about this pull. It was clearly an FTE snipe attempt there was 0 chance of a pull.

Hey momo, go back to the corner haha. I am not taking sides, I was just answering her question from my understanding of the game mechanics... Not taking any side here

And read my previous posts, did I not say in a different way that , fte then bravehearting the mob with 2-3-4-5-6-7 however many if it isn't enough to kill ct, is gay???

You find arguments where they don't even exist, you never cease to amaze me.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derp, so we engage a mob take the first dt and you honestly think Scorchin thought he had a chance to pull it? The wool is over your eyes friend. There is nothing honest about this pull. It was clearly an FTE snipe attempt there was 0 chance of a pull.

Once again for all mentally challenged people like Alarti.

You took the zonewide DT, which does not constitute being put on the agro list. Hence you were not on the agro list.

Scorchin took the DT from CT which is a result of being on the agro list. TMO engaged inbetween Scorchin being on the agro list and Scorchin dieing.

Hence, FTE SHOUT would have called SCORCHIN. Hence FTE would have been SCORCHIN'S if you engaged before he was off the agro list.

Go back to school.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again for all mentally challenged people like Alarti.

You took the zonewide DT, which does not constitute being put on the agro list. Hence you were not on the agro list.

Scorchin took the DT from CT which is a result of being on the agro list. TMO engaged inbetween Scorchin being on the agro list and Scorchin dieing.

Hence, FTE SHOUT would have called SCORCHIN. Hence FTE would have been SCORCHIN'S if you engaged before he was off the agro list.

Go back to school.

Oh how foolish are we to designate DT'ers to take the first two DT's, and how lucky are we that the first person to aggro him is always lucky enough to take the "ZONEWIDE" DT.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again for all mentally challenged people like Alarti.

You took the zonewide DT, which does not constitute being put on the agro list. Hence you were not on the agro list.

Scorchin took the DT from CT which is a result of being on the agro list. TMO engaged inbetween Scorchin being on the agro list and Scorchin dieing.

Hence, FTE SHOUT would have called SCORCHIN. Hence FTE would have been SCORCHIN'S if you engaged before he was off the agro list.

Go back to school.

And then when he died he would have reset?

You took EQ rule lawyering in school? I never saw that course offering.
How do you put that on your resume'?

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And then when he died he would have reset?

You took EQ rule lawyering in school? I never saw that course offering.
How do you put that on your resume'?

There is no course, the only assumption is that you learned to understand arguments and hold rational discussions. You seem to have missed this part of early to mid adolescence and remained at the stage where you cry when mommy doesnt buy you candy.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no course, the only assumption is that you learned to understand arguments and hold rational discussions. You seem to have missed this part of early to mid adolescence and remained at the stage where you cry when mommy doesnt buy you candy.

Haha..... this whole thread is FE crying.... not the other way around. Get out of the bubble you live in. Its hard to get real facts when the only data you analyze is the data you create. Ask Fox News about this.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this whole thread is FE crying

From an outside perspective this whole thread looks like a TMO gloating about getting a mob that the rules say they shouldn't have gotten. TMO started the thread and 75% of the posts in this thread are TMO members.

This exact situation happened with a Trakanon if I remember correctly. IB did all the killing but 1 person from TMO had FTE and we had to fork the loot over. Sure is interesting, albeit unsurprising to see how certain people in TMO act when the shoe is on the other foot.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You took the zonewide DT, which does not constitute being put on the agro list. Hence you were not on the agro list.

Scorchin took the DT from CT which is a result of being on the agro list. TMO engaged inbetween Scorchin being on the agro list and Scorchin dieing.

Hence, FTE SHOUT would have called SCORCHIN. Hence FTE would have been SCORCHIN'S if you engaged before he was off the agro list.

As you said yourself, this comes down to a matter of seconds. In this case, undoubtedly, fractions of a second.

The question is simply this: Should the rules allow for a decision maker to make rulings so as to promote fairness as much as possible, or should we operate strictly by the letter of the laws without deviation?

Clearly, we know what the rules are. The question is, what is fair?

Do you believe it would be fair if FE were in TMO's position instead? Would it be fair if the "sniping guild" were in the SE corner of the zone with the "puller" near the engaging raid? Do you believe that there exists any set of circumstances where the guild that is merited FTE by the encounter logs should not be merited the kill?

I believe that fairness demands flexibility and occasional subjective decision making. Perhaps you do not. Both are valid view points, the question is, which do we pursue for the health of the server?

I submit that slavish devotion to the current rules produces inequity and unfairness.