Tranquil Staff: Need Before Greed?

[OmeggaNog]

Originally Posted by Dragonzord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus man, you realize this loot has no worldly value (unless you RMT ofc.) Why would you not help a fellow group member out with some gear. The P99 playerbase is so wack man. Even if this server was 99% classic from UI to code to w/e, the playerbase is not. The WoW generation have turned this social mmo into GearQuest. Have fun.

I hate to break it to you, since you obviously didnt' play EQ during it's humble beginnings, but this is how it was. WoW wasn't even a forethought in Blizzard's mind when this kind of thing was happening in EQ.

And you keep spouting that the loot has no value, like you're too cool to care about silly pixels. If that's the case, than you really shouldn't give two squirts of piss whether a TStaff went to a monk, or a shaman, or just dropped on the ground and left to rot, amirite?

Yet somehow, the thought of loot going to anyone else except the guy you think "deserves" it more has your jimmies all rustled.

Interesting. Seems you care about dem silly pixels enough to spend your morning with your panties in a wad on some forums about silly pixels.

[Dragonzord]

Originally Posted by OmeggaNog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate to break it to you, since you obviously didnt' play EQ during it's humble beginnings, but this is how it was. WoW wasn't even a forethought in Blizzard's mind when this kind of thing was happening in EQ.

And you keep spouting that the loot has no value, like you're too cool to care about silly pixels. If that's the case, than you really shouldn't give two squirts of piss whether a TStaff went to a monk, or a shaman, or just dropped on the ground and left to rot, amirite?

Yet somehow, the thought of loot going to anyone else except the guy you think "deserves" it more has your jimmies all rustled.

Interesting. Seems you care about dem silly pixels enough to spend your morning with your panties in a wad on some forums about silly pixels.

Damn, looks like I upset another emotional man baby. Sorry pal if you feel differently. It is impossible to reason with unemployed min/maxers who's entire life revolves around an emulated mmo. I wish you the best!

[Furniture]

Originally Posted by Dragonzord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn, looks like I upset another emotional man baby. Sorry pal if you feel differently. It is impossible to reason with unemployed min/maxers who's entire life revolves around an emulated mmo. I wish you the best!

just read this and had to chime in, you call the other guy a "man baby", while your the loser with power rangers all over your sig (its not funny or cute or whatever you think it is), and you say something about someone having no life over EQ, yet you have nearly 200 posts on this account in less than a month, who knows what forum names you had before, but it looks like you spend a little too much time on these forums to be saying others have no lives

[cyryllis]

going to sum this all up and make it nice and easy for some of the people with less reading comprehension/ reasoning skills:


Tstaff- not common...not a camp you are sitting at for the sole intention of getting a tstaff. It is usually just normal exp group, and when one drops, its a bonus for the whole group.

Oh btw, comparing giving a tstaff to a greedy monk to giving some noob paladin a ghoulbane? What a joke- Tstaff 30k...ghoulbane 600pp.

Fungi tunic camp- so you are saying this camp should ONLY be done by characters who can use the tunic? So no ench/mage/wiz/nec should EVER do that camp, because they arent deserving of the 50k? Newsflash, some of us still need items we can't afford. Thanks for denying my main the chance to buy items that benefit me because you are so greedy.

Do you think when manastones and rod of annihilation dropped they should have auto gone to casters?

Shit reminds me of idiots on live at frenzied ghoul camp who insisted they should get FBSS over everyone else because they werent wearing one. Same people you see a week later selling it.

ITT: People who can reason, and people who think that since they rolled a melee class, they should get all the loot. Not that much good caster gear rolling around at most camps buddy. Good luck getting heals, buffs, cc, etc.

Just because you play games, doesnt mean you should act retarded- you are making the rest of us look bad.

[Dragonzord]

Originally Posted by cyryllis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

going to sum this all up and make it nice and easy for some of the people with less reading comprehension/ reasoning skills:


Tstaff- not common...not a camp you are sitting at for the sole intention of getting a tstaff. It is usually just normal exp group, and when one drops, its a bonus for the whole group.

Oh btw, comparing giving a tstaff to a greedy monk to giving some noob paladin a ghoulbane? What a joke- Tstaff 30k...ghoulbane 600pp.

Fungi tunic camp- so you are saying this camp should ONLY be done by characters who can use the tunic? So no ench/mage/wiz/nec should EVER do that camp, because they arent deserving of the 50k? Newsflash, some of us still need items we can't afford. Thanks for denying my main the chance to buy items that benefit me because you are so greedy.

Do you think when manastones and rod of annihilation dropped they should have auto gone to casters?

Shit reminds me of idiots on live at frenzied ghoul camp who insisted they should get FBSS over everyone else because they werent wearing one. Same people you see a week later selling it.

ITT: People who can reason, and people who think that since they rolled a melee class, they should get all the loot. Not that much good caster gear rolling around at most camps buddy. Good luck getting heals, buffs, cc, etc.

Just because you play games, doesnt mean you should act retarded- you are making the rest of us look bad.

lol wut? oh so when does an item become "greed only" loot rules since the ghoulbane is lolcheap? please tell me when an item becomes too valuable to let someone to need it.

giving the t staff to a greedy monk? its its an upgrade and he is going to USE the damn thing there is no greed about it. If he is lying or goes and sells it then ya you can say hes greedy but thats not the case here.

i never said classes who cant use fungi shouldnt camp it. not sure where you pulled that one out of. I am saying people dont camp fungi for the insane xp. they go there with the purpose of getting that item so ofc everyone can roll on it. kinda like raiding, people go there with the intention of getting drops. this wasnt the case for the t staff.

the fbss point, ya its bs when people go around needing it only to turn around and sell it but im not going to lose any sleep over it lol. I guess if you are playing this game with the soul purpose of gearing your self and saying fuck you to the everyone else then ofc your reasoning would be to greed everything. sad times we live in.

[cyryllis]

Originally Posted by Dragonzord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess if you are playing this game with the soul purpose of gearing your self and saying fuck you to the everyone else then ofc your reasoning would be to greed everything. sad times we live in.

Everybody wants to gear their character, everybody benefits equally from getting a tstaff. I'd say most people let items sub 1k go to whoever can use it in a group, from my experience. Tstaff= 30k= more than halfway to a tobrins eyepatch, 1/4 of the way to a boneclasped girdle, 1/4 the way to a manastone, 1/7 of the way to a RoA- if we are talking higher end. Or for the lower end: 30k could buy an int caster: 2x BS ear, Ornate rune shield, Tola robe, dustscryer crystal ball, djarns amethyst ring, and have plat left over for ports/peridots/tradeskills. I'm pretty sure the ability to afford all those nice upgrades is just as, if not more, beneficial for the caster. So I could argue that you are being greedy for denying them said potential upgrades.

Anyways, gl on your continued trolling, I see youve made quite a few posts in the last month since youve joined. Maybe you need to take a break from the forums and get some fresh air.

[Caamaya]

The way I've always seen it is the plat figure of the item. If it had dropped for a group I was in, whether I was a monk or not, 30k for anyone is a good amount of plat. Unless you were in a guild group where you're all very much working on the same goals, one of them being make your raid team stronger, then it wouldn't be NBG. For the originator of the thread; would you do NBG if a cobalt bracer (80k?) dropped? I'm a barbarian and would likely be a shrink and ac upgrade. What is the point in which its not about the need and it turns to be about the plat? I'd NBG on a 1kplat spell but not sure about a 20k spell if it means some serious beefing up when you turn the item to pp.

-Warwar

[Senadin]

Originally Posted by Caamaya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way I've always seen it is the plat figure of the item. If it had dropped for a group I was in, whether I was a monk or not, 30k for anyone is a good amount of plat. Unless you were in a guild group where you're all very much working on the same goals, one of them being make your raid team stronger, then it wouldn't be NBG. For the originator of the thread; would you do NBG if a cobalt bracer (80k?) dropped? I'm a barbarian and would likely be a shrink and ac upgrade. What is the point in which its not about the need and it turns to be about the plat? I'd NBG on a 1kplat spell but not sure about a 20k spell if it means some serious beefing up when you turn the item to pp.

-Warwar

Myself i would never roll on ANY item if someone needed especially if it was clear they needed it. By that i mean, you know... some players with the rep of being greedy. Players that you can tell are loot whore. They are the one who are looting right before the corpse fall on the ground and gets cold. We all know the kind.

I dont care if the item was worth 300k. If you said you needed that bracer as it was an upgrade, i would pass. Maybe i am dumb but it's how i always played and it isnt about to change. What goes around comes around.

[Senadin]

Originally Posted by cyryllis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

going to sum this all up and make it nice and easy for some of the people with less reading comprehension/ reasoning skills:


Tstaff- not common...not a camp you are sitting at for the sole intention of getting a tstaff. It is usually just normal exp group, and when one drops, its a bonus for the whole group.
Oh btw, comparing giving a tstaff to a greedy monk to giving some noob paladin a ghoulbane? What a joke- Tstaff 30k...ghoulbane 600pp.

Fungi tunic camp- so you are saying this camp should ONLY be done by characters who can use the tunic? So no ench/mage/wiz/nec should EVER do that camp, because they arent deserving of the 50k? Newsflash, some of us still need items we can't afford. Thanks for denying my main the chance to buy items that benefit me because you are so greedy.

Do you think when manastones and rod of annihilation dropped they should have auto gone to casters?

Shit reminds me of idiots on live at frenzied ghoul camp who insisted they should get FBSS over everyone else because they werent wearing one. Same people you see a week later selling it.

ITT: People who can reason, and people who think that since they rolled a melee class, they should get all the loot. Not that much good caster gear rolling around at most camps buddy. Good luck getting heals, buffs, cc, etc.

Just because you play games, doesnt mean you should act retarded- you are making the rest of us look bad.

LOL Maybe for most classes they go there not caring, Considering the Warlord only drops the boots and the staff that are worth it. This is one of the monk big ticket item that is only surpassed by the epic. A lot of you guys fail to consider that the T-staff for most monk is the TOP weapon for our class!

So not every monk can get their epic done. even if they are guilded maybe they cant do the epic fights. So this is the best thing for a lot of monk for a long long time! Hopefully folks can understand this but eh, i'll do like i always do and sit there in that room until i score one, either thru NBG or farming/xp group. To compare the staff to other valuable items is clearly not knowing about monks gear, which is understandable. I know jack shit about other classes gear.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by cyryllis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

going to sum this all up and make it nice and easy for some of the people with less reading comprehension/ reasoning skills:


Tstaff- not common...not a camp you are sitting at for the sole intention of getting a tstaff. It is usually just normal exp group, and when one drops, its a bonus for the whole group.

Oh btw, comparing giving a tstaff to a greedy monk to giving some noob paladin a ghoulbane? What a joke- Tstaff 30k...ghoulbane 600pp.

Fungi tunic camp- so you are saying this camp should ONLY be done by characters who can use the tunic? So no ench/mage/wiz/nec should EVER do that camp, because they arent deserving of the 50k? Newsflash, some of us still need items we can't afford. Thanks for denying my main the chance to buy items that benefit me because you are so greedy.


Do you think when manastones and rod of annihilation dropped they should have auto gone to casters?

Shit reminds me of idiots on live at frenzied ghoul camp who insisted they should get FBSS over everyone else because they werent wearing one. Same people you see a week later selling it.

ITT: People who can reason, and people who think that since they rolled a melee class, they should get all the loot. Not that much good caster gear rolling around at most camps buddy. Good luck getting heals, buffs, cc, etc.

Just because you play games, doesnt mean you should act retarded- you are making the rest of us look bad.

Who ever said only 1 of the item is gonna drop while you are camping the spot? sure a caster can get a fungi but should be after melee get one if they don't already have. Same goes for casters getting first shot at say a manastone before a melee. As i said i dont plan on grouping with anyone that isnt cool with NbG going into a group even if i'm not the one needing anything from the camp. No reason you cant let NbG go first and then split up the remaining loots. If i was at fungi and got a fungi i would forgo all other loot including split since i got something i'm gonna use. I guess alot of others don't think the same way as me and thats fine it makes sense to me why i can make friends easier then most of you.


And also the whole arguement well its worth 30k i can sell and buy upgrades for myself. Yes you could but how long is it gonna take that monk to have another chance at a Tstaff to help his DPS right then and there. Bet you would be kicking yourself if you looted Tstaff then everyone but your monk in group wiped and he somehow managed to die before getting FD off because his dps wasnt gonna enough to kill the mob first.