So that's it for the election.

[Ephirith]

Fuck your democracy (or consitutional republic).

1. Make citizenship (voting) a privilege earned either through 2 or more years military service or civil service (government work paid at a rate similar to enlisted military). Service guarantees citizenship, bitch. Would you like to know more?

2. Eliminate and reverse suburban sprawl through zoning and building codes. City infrastructure should be efficiently planned and decentralized to facilitate travel either by walking, bicycle, or short, uncongested car rides. The cost of gas siphons an inordinately high amount of disposable income from the average citizen, in addition to logistical effects (shipping). Most of this money is removed from our economy and goes overseas to OPEC.

3. Remove barriers to the further proliferation of nuclear energy. This is the most efficient power source known to mankind, and among the safest. Compare the remote, marginal risk of nuclear accidents to the certainty of damage to public health wrought by coal power. Tens of thousands of cases of lung cancer every year if you include coal mining. The more we use nuclear power the more we will understand and innovate the technology, and it will become even more efficient.

4. Strict population control. One-child or two-child policy for several generations. Forced abortions for violators. Think about how much better life would be if our country had 30 million people instead of 300 million. Each life means so much more-- organization is so much easier, and ~all~ resources would go 10x further.

5. Cut the fuck out of the military. This isn't the cold war, there is no monolithic superpower to challenge us. China is a fucking joke. Of the next 10 largest economies and largest militaries, most of them are our close allies-- and they simply choose to rely on the US military without funding one of their own.

Germany, one of the greatest martial states in human history, is our close ally and largely unarmed. Same with Japan. Counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism can be accomplished with lightweight, intelligent contingents of special forces with excellent logistics and equipment-- NOT an ineffective, expensive occupation. If we do need a huge conventional military again, it is not difficult to re-arm and re-mobilize in a pinch. Huge standing armies and military-industrial complex are a fairly recent development (ww2) for us, and a massive economic burden. This money needs to be going to education and infrastructure.

That's my 5-point plan, lick my ballsack.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck your democracy (or consitutional republic).

1. Make citizenship (voting) a privilege earned either through 2 or more years military service or civil service (government work paid at a rate similar to enlisted military). Service guarantees citizenship, bitch. Would you like to know more?

2. Eliminate and reverse suburban sprawl through zoning and building codes. City infrastructure should be efficiently planned and decentralized to facilitate travel either by walking, bicycle, or short, uncongested car rides. The cost of gas siphons an inordinately high amount of disposable income from the average citizen, in addition to logistical effects (shipping). Most of this money is removed from our economy and goes overseas to OPEC.

3. Remove barriers to the further proliferation of nuclear energy. This is the most efficient power source known to mankind, and among the safest. Compare the remote, marginal risk of nuclear accidents to the certainty of damage to public health wrought by coal power. Tens of thousands of cases of lung cancer every year if you include coal mining. The more we use nuclear power the more we will understand and innovate the technology, and it will become even more efficient.

4. Strict population control. One-child or two-child policy for several generations. Forced abortions for violators. Think about how much better life would be if our country had 30 million people instead of 300 million. Each life means so much more-- organization is so much easier, and ~all~ resources would go 10x further.

5. Cut the fuck out of the military. This isn't the cold war, there is no monolithic superpower to challenge us. China is a fucking joke. Of the next 10 largest economies and largest militaries, most of them are our close allies-- and they simply choose to rely on the US military without funding one of their own.

Germany, one of the greatest martial states in human history, is our close ally and largely unarmed. Same with Japan. Counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism can be accomplished with lightweight, intelligent contingents of special forces with excellent logistics and equipment-- NOT an ineffective, expensive occupation. If we do need a huge conventional military again, it is not difficult to re-arm and re-mobilize in a pinch. Huge standing armies and military-industrial complex are a fairly recent development (ww2) for us, and a massive economic burden. This money needs to be going to education and infrastructure.

That's my 5-point plan, lick my ballsack.

I'd vote for you, although I'm not too worked up about #4--most Western countries already have natality below replacement levels. There are demographic impacts to an aging population that will become more obvious as the boomers all retire.

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck your democracy (or consitutional republic).

1. Make citizenship (voting) a privilege earned either through 2 or more years military service or civil service (government work paid at a rate similar to enlisted military). Service guarantees citizenship, bitch. Would you like to know more?

2. Eliminate and reverse suburban sprawl through zoning and building codes. City infrastructure should be efficiently planned and decentralized to facilitate travel either by walking, bicycle, or short, uncongested car rides. The cost of gas siphons an inordinately high amount of disposable income from the average citizen, in addition to logistical effects (shipping). Most of this money is removed from our economy and goes overseas to OPEC.

3. Remove barriers to the further proliferation of nuclear energy. This is the most efficient power source known to mankind, and among the safest. Compare the remote, marginal risk of nuclear accidents to the certainty of damage to public health wrought by coal power. Tens of thousands of cases of lung cancer every year if you include coal mining. The more we use nuclear power the more we will understand and innovate the technology, and it will become even more efficient.

4. Strict population control. One-child or two-child policy for several generations. Forced abortions for violators. Think about how much better life would be if our country had 30 million people instead of 300 million. Each life means so much more-- organization is so much easier, and ~all~ resources would go 10x further.

5. Cut the fuck out of the military. This isn't the cold war, there is no monolithic superpower to challenge us. China is a fucking joke. Of the next 10 largest economies and largest militaries, most of them are our close allies-- and they simply choose to rely on the US military without funding one of their own.

Germany, one of the greatest martial states in human history, is our close ally and largely unarmed. Same with Japan. Counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism can be accomplished with lightweight, intelligent contingents of special forces with excellent logistics and equipment-- NOT an ineffective, expensive occupation. If we do need a huge conventional military again, it is not difficult to re-arm and re-mobilize in a pinch. Huge standing armies and military-industrial complex are a fairly recent development (ww2) for us, and a massive economic burden. This money needs to be going to education and infrastructure.

That's my 5-point plan, lick my ballsack.

So, fascism, basically?

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, fascism, basically?

Fascism exactly. Note that Nazi germany is to fascism as square is to rectangle. I don't believe in racial purity, genocide, or any of that shit. A fascist state can still be a representative democracy/republic, and it needn't be corrupt or brutal. It's a synthesis between personal responsibility and collective responsibility. I think it's the system with the greatest compromise between individual potential and collective potential.

Plus Starship Troopers was a really good movie.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fascism exactly. Note that Nazi germany is to fascism as square is to rectangle. I don't believe in racial purity, genocide, or any of that shit. A fascist state can still be a representative democracy/republic, and it needn't be corrupt or brutal. It's a synthesis between personal responsibility and collective responsibility. I think it's the system with the greatest compromise between individual potential and collective potential.

Plus Starship Troopers was a really good movie.

Facism and other forms of centralized government will always lead to totalitarianism. It's the dream of many socialist that if they just had the right people in power, things would work out. But they never do.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Facism and other forms of centralized government will always lead to totalitarianism. It's the dream of many socialist that if they just had the right people in power, things would work out. But they never do.

People have the government they deserve. Liberty is just as likely to appear spontaneously in an enlightened society as tyranny is in an ignorant one.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People have the government they deserve. Liberty is just as likely to appear spontaneously in an enlightened society as tyranny is in an ignorant one.

I see. So collectivism always devolves into murderous totalitarianism because it has always been implemented in ignorant societies. And this is an argument for trying it here in America? Because our society is so enlightened, right?

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see. So collectivism always devolves into murderous totalitarianism because it has always been implemented in ignorant societies. And this is an argument for trying it here in America? Because our society is so enlightened, right?

Liberty also devolves into murderous totalitarianism in ignorant societies, anything does. I'm convinced an Ayn-Randian libertarian redneck-survival-fantasy paradise would work here too, but I disagree with that philosophy.

My point is, here in the United States (and to a similar extent in the UK and some other European countries), there has been a political culture of civility and respect for the rule of law. You might think this is a nasty, toxic election, but put it in perspective historically and internationally. And still, we're ultimately following the rules (as much as some of us may think they are silly).

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fascism exactly. Note that Nazi germany is to fascism as square is to rectangle. I don't believe in racial purity, genocide, or any of that shit. A fascist state can still be a representative democracy/republic, and it needn't be corrupt or brutal. It's a synthesis between personal responsibility and collective responsibility. I think it's the system with the greatest compromise between individual potential and collective potential.

Plus Starship Troopers was a really good movie.

Nazi Germany was a nationalist socialism. Fascism (specifically Mussolini's Italy) is basically a nationalist capitalism.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plus Starship Troopers was a really good movie.

Heinlein is rolling in his grave; Read the book.