Dark Ascension...phallax, quite the char

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't even have to try. I just tell you to follow me through guk and you will die nps!


Also, I think this was a pretty pointless thread. Every guild on this server is filled with people who are cocks about camping rights. I don't think this really reflects that heavily on DA as a guild.

That said, am I the only one who finds this weird? I see plenty of people who have nice remarks about individuals in DA. However every single person I have heard mention DA as a whole, be it in game, on the forums, or on IRC that isn't a member of DA, thinks it's a guild full of lying, cheating, training, exploiting, assholes who would stab their own mothers in the back for loot.

Now, I can understand this coming FROM IB as DA is their only real competition at present. It totally makes sense that they would fabricate things to try and make DA look bad. I get that. Just, why does everyone else seem to say the exact same thing? If DA is a guild of reasonably well behaved and friendly individuals, why is there so much hate? Is the entire server just buying into IBs propaganda and giving DA an unfair shake? Or is this reputation somewhat deserved?

Seriously. I want to know this. If it's just some sort of jealousy, why don't people feel as strongly about IB? I get that IB is disliked by a large portion of the population, and I'm sure some of their actions have earned them that disapproval. They may deserve it all and more. With DA however, people REALLY hate you guys. Like, they saw a picture of you fisting their mother or something kind of dislike. If you guys are as upstanding as you make yourself out to be, why is this the prevalent feeling toward your guild as a whole?

My guess is that, on the individual level, they are cool people. However, when they get together as a guild to do this or that, mob mentality takes over, and they do whatever it takes to get their ph@t lewtz. Either they get their collective greed on, or the leadership is doing it, or some combination of both. Once again, that's my GUESS, but in general humans become worse people the more of us you get together.

Personally, I've ran into several very cool DA people, and some of my guildies are members there now. I've also ran into some snotty annoying worthless players from there, on their twink alts (since I'm not raiding yet), but that's like 2 people in 2 separate incidents to 4 or 5 good incidents.

Last thing to mention - people remember bad things over good things. Some might say "one bad apple ruins the bunch", but I prefer "Build a hundred bridges, but you suck one dick...."

[Phil]

Also, it's PAINFULLY obvious that the OP's motives here were to get dirt on a guild that he has a personal vendetta against. His mission is accomplished if just a few people look down on Phallax for the way he acted and as a result look down on DA.

For the record, DA, it'll take a lot more than a pathetic little trollage like this to get me to think differently of you guys. Mission failed here.

[President]

Originally Posted by Phil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, it's PAINFULLY obvious that the OP's motives here were to get dirt on a guild that he has a personal vendetta against. His mission is accomplished if just a few people look down on Phallax for the way he acted and as a result look down on DA.

Do you wanna explain how you came to this ass-backwards conclusion?

[Phil]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you wanna explain how you came to this ass-backwards conclusion?

Mostly the OP's tone of voice and how he has continuously tried to drag Phallax's ENTIRE guild (or prospective guild) through the mud in this thread despite some very diplomatic efforts from Loke to prevent that.

[President]

Originally Posted by Phil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mostly the OP's tone of voice and how he has continuously tried to drag Phallax's ENTIRE guild (or prospective guild) through the mud in this thread despite some very diplomatic efforts from Loke to prevent that.

Sure, after he posted this he obviously doesn't like the person/guild.

But, this part of your previous post....

OP's motives here were to get dirt on a guild that he has a personal vendetta against.

....does not make sense with the initial post/complaint. I don't see how in any way he was going out of his way to dig up dirt on a guild he has a "personal vendetta against" by trying to defend a camp he had been waiting at for 4 hours.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

....does not make sense with the initial post/complaint. I don't see how in any way he was going out of his way to dig up dirt on a guild he has a "personal vendetta against" by trying to defend a camp he had been waiting at for 4 hours.

I don't want to dig through the thread to find it, but in the first half I remember reading something by the OP that said something like:

"Yeah my whole goal here was to expose DA and one of its members for his actions. I've dealt with many members of DA like this but I chose to just expose this one"

Then of course, he doesn't go on to provide any other evidence. Personally I think he seemed a little to happy to give up a camp he had waited FOUR whole hours on just so long as he could get some dirt to post on RnF about DA. Haven't you also said that you personally don't like DA in this thread too? I'm starting to lose track.

It's plain as day to me.

[President]

Originally Posted by Phil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't want to dig through the thread to find it, but in the first half I remember reading something by the OP that said something like:

"Yeah my whole goal here was to expose DA and one of its members for his actions. I've dealt with many members of DA like this but I chose to just expose this one"

Once again, it is extremely obvious that he did not go out of his way to attempt to dig up dirt on someone by his first post. Does he not like DA? Apparently so. Does he not like some members of DA? Apparently so. So, again, your initial statement is completely loaded and unjustifiable by any "evidence."

Then of course, he doesn't go on to provide any other evidence.

Oh of course, obviously he should have been frapsing every second hes played since he started so he would have evidence of every time he had a bad experience.

Personally I think he seemed a little to happy to give up a camp he had waited FOUR whole hours on just so long as he could get some dirt to post on RnF about DA.

Wow, Mr. FuckingBraniac here. You mean he politely gave up the camp to someone who obviously jumped past him and knew it so he could come here and post about it without making himself look aggressive and stupid in the process? Amazing strategy, thanks for figuring that out sherlock.

Haven't you also said that you personally don't like DA in this thread too? I'm starting to lose track.

No I stated I liked DA. I talk to multiple members regularly and raid with them when there is room. I have yet to have a problem personally with anyone in DA, or really any guild for that matter.

It's plain as day to me.

*sigh* you should really just stop posting.

[Phallax]

Who ever mentioned the "people remember bad over good" couldnt be any closer to the truth.

Its sadly how the world works. I do my fair share in game of good. Giving camps up so an exp group can have at it, giving numerous items away, helping people out of a jam, helping break camps, buffs etc etc. But I have 1 bad day and shit hits the fan, its sadly the human race merit system.

Its just like teachers/bosses/parents. Anyone in a "leadership" position is quicker to discipline the lessers for 1 bad action than they are to reward them for 10 good actions.

"One oh shit can erase a thousand atta boys." -Scott Adams

[President]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who ever mentioned the "people remember bad over good" couldnt be any closer to the truth.

Its sadly how the world works. I do my fair share in game of good. Giving camps up so an exp group can have at it, giving numerous items away, helping people out of a jam, helping break camps, buffs etc etc. But I have 1 bad day and shit hits the fan, its sadly the human race merit system.

Its just like teachers/bosses/parents. Anyone in a "leadership" position is quicker to discipline the lessers for 1 bad action than they are to reward them for 10 good actions.

"One oh shit can erase a thousand atta boys." -Scott Adams

What do you mean you have "1 bad day?" Do you mean you up and decided to be a douchebag that day because you wanted the camp? Or are you saying that you were in a shitty mood for whatever reason and acted unreasonably?

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who ever mentioned the "people remember bad over good" couldnt be any closer to the truth.

Its sadly how the world works. I do my fair share in game of good. Giving camps up so an exp group can have at it, giving numerous items away, helping people out of a jam, helping break camps, buffs etc etc. But I have 1 bad day and shit hits the fan, its sadly the human race merit system.

Its just like teachers/bosses/parents. Anyone in a "leadership" position is quicker to discipline the lessers for 1 bad action than they are to reward them for 10 good actions.

"One oh shit can erase a thousand atta boys." -Scott Adams

So now you're admitting that you were a dick?