What do you think about PL'ers?

[Swish]

Not if they stay away from a populated MM/Unrest/etc. That's the point, keep the PL'ing in quieter zones - Kunark is a prime example of quiet dungeons among others. Places like Nurga and Droga are far too quiet for how good the XP is. Ever levelled in Runnyeye on P99? Nor have most people - give PL'ing a try in there.

I'm not against PL'ers, it's nice to have a break from the grind if you've got the people at the top end who have the time to spare... but just be sensible about it and let other groups enjoy the game too rather than crowding them out of an area. Mistmoore is always the one that got me, we'd wait around for spawns because they'd been cleared out by a PL group who finish them off in seconds.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not if they stay away from a populated MM/Unrest/etc. That's the point, keep the PL'ing in quieter zones - Kunark is a prime example of quiet dungeons among others. Places like Nurga and Droga are far too quiet for how good the XP is. Ever levelled in Runnyeye on P99? Nor have most people - give PL'ing a try in there.

I'm not against PL'ers, it's nice to have a break from the grind if you've got the people at the top end who have the time to spare... but just be sensible about it and let other groups enjoy the game too rather than crowding them out of an area. Mistmoore is always the one that got me, we'd wait around for spawns because they'd been cleared out by a PL group who finish them off in seconds.

The problem with kunark Pling over old world Pling is that kunark mobs have more HP and hit a lot harder and the xp isn't better, it's actually worse.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with kunark Pling over old world Pling is that kunark mobs have more HP and hit a lot harder and the xp isn't better, it's actually worse.

Fair enough, there's still Splitpaw, Najena, Befallen, Cazic, Upper Guk, Runnyeye (as mentioned)... and for the adventurous, Permafrost. Most of them except for Perma are reasonably close to a druid ring, so entirely accessible [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, there's still Splitpaw, Najena, Befallen, Cazic, Upper Guk, Runnyeye (as mentioned)... and for the adventurous, Permafrost. Most of them except for Perma are reasonably close to a druid ring, so entirely accessible [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Splitpaw, it's pretty damn amazing there. Najena, not the greatest the mobs are too split up, it's only good for a few levels, and mob level has a really weird variance to it, Befallen isn't terrible, but still far far far below unrest with all the lockdoors, a surprisingly small amount of mobs, Cazic- too many casters iirc, level change in mobs is too much. Upperguk, super low exp gain from there, no sow. Runnyeye, I never really did too much there but after all ways getting lost in there I called it quits.


See the problem with perma, it's too big, mobs are too far apart.

If there was one place in kunark (from what I know of) that I would powerlevel in I would do sarnak fortress, however the mobs there hit like a truck and the respawn time will get you unless you're on your guard.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, there's still Splitpaw, Najena, Befallen, Cazic, Upper Guk, Runnyeye (as mentioned)... and for the adventurous, Permafrost. Most of them except for Perma are reasonably close to a druid ring, so entirely accessible [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

splitpaw is a clusterfuck, shit aggroes through the wall, pathing is bad, and a fair amount of healers.

najena is honestly too low for the majority of PLers. With a 60 assist PL you can skip to a 30ish zone almost immediately and get max xp for pl'ee if you're using any kind of porcupining or porc / feigning.

CT has like 3000 clerics. There's a reason no one fucking goes there.

Uguk isn't bad, ZEM is great but if you want to maintain max xp per kill you'll transition to a higher zone. Also, lolshamanmobs.

RE is a lowbie zone, similar problems to splitpaw with pathing / healers.

Permafrost also has far, far too many clerics and the zone doesn't lend itself well to being traveled to for non firepot bound characters.

Unfortunately the things that make good PL zones also make good leveling zones. Mobs are piss easy, grouped densely in similar ranges with no healers, and high ZEMs.

kurns, befallen, lguk, com, solb (certain areas, avoiding the shm, though healers are less of an issue with a feign assist pL'er, mind, i speak mostly from a ds pl strat) are some of my personal favorites. I try to stick to the upper zones in old world which further cuts down places I can PL, depending on who I have and what i'm PLing. If it's a 50s PL and I have a monk assist and efreeti is camped, often I can PL in HS West, but yeah, takes a bit more work than efreeti.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

splitpaw is a clusterfuck, shit aggroes through the wall, pathing is bad, and a fair amount of healers.

najena is honestly too low for the majority of PLers. With a 60 assist PL you can skip to a 30ish zone almost immediately and get max xp for pl'ee if you're using any kind of porcupining or porc / feigning.

CT has like 3000 clerics. There's a reason no one fucking goes there.

Uguk isn't bad, ZEM is great but if you want to maintain max xp per kill you'll transition to a higher zone. Also, lolshamanmobs.

RE is a lowbie zone, similar problems to splitpaw with pathing / healers.

Permafrost also has far, far too many clerics and the zone doesn't lend itself well to being traveled to for non firepot bound characters.

Unfortunately the things that make good PL zones also make good leveling zones. Mobs are piss easy, grouped densely in similar ranges with no healers, and high ZEMs.

kurns, befallen, lguk, com, solb (certain areas, avoiding the shm, though healers are less of an issue with a feign assist pL'er, mind, i speak mostly from a ds pl strat) are some of my personal favorites. I try to stick to the upper zones in old world which further cuts down places I can PL, depending on who I have and what i'm PLing. If it's a 50s PL and I have a monk assist and efreeti is camped, often I can PL in HS West, but yeah, takes a bit more work than efreeti.

With splitpaw I don't suggest ever going past the double doors for pling (depending on the class that is pling you of course) I had all ways kept it 23-28(or 29 can't remember) before heading some place else. But holy smokes split paw is grand xp, 23-28 in a matter of 2-3hours.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with kunark Pling over old world Pling is that kunark mobs have more HP and hit a lot harder and the xp isn't better, it's actually worse.

Bigger issue for me (as a cleric) is that manastone doesn't work in kunark. I'd gladly PL all goddamn day 30-50 in COM, but alas, only the donals works there, no stone. Stone helps for midfight celestials, roots, etc. Whereas if i take it to efreeti with a monk assist or something I'm guaranteed 0 downtime, and can pull :3

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bigger issue for me (as a cleric) is that manastone doesn't work in kunark. I'd gladly PL all goddamn day 30-50 in COM, but alas, only the donals works there, no stone. Stone helps for midfight celestials, roots, etc. Whereas if i take it to efreeti with a monk assist or something I'm guaranteed 0 downtime, and can pull :3

Definitely true didn't even think of gear restrictions such as manastone. But then again not everyone has one or is capable of having one yet so I suppose i didn't include it for that reason. CoM in my opinion is the one exception to the kunark hp/mob hitting like a truck. for powerlevelers and whomever they're powerleveling, it's definitely a fantastic spot at 40 until the beginning mobs hit lightblue. Funny enough the golems all ways gave sweet xp compared to the undead mobs there (I'm referencing the first 3 sections before arena) However when golems become lightblue I believe stables still had the majority of dark blues.