Raid Changes

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are discussing the VP No Staff Involvement Rules internally but have not reached a decision yet.

And to elaborate, we probably won't make any changes before the changes in the OP get implemented.. and if we only do repops for raid mobs, VP will not be included unless it is an entire server repop as being discussed. Reasoning for this is that this entire change is to benefit the smaller guilds, which I don't see affecting VP in it's current state.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And to elaborate, we probably won't make any changes before the changes in the OP get implemented.. and if we only do repops for raid mobs, VP will not be included unless it is an entire server repop as being discussed. Reasoning for this is that this entire change is to benefit the smaller guilds, which I don't see affecting VP in it's current state.

Well the way it affects the smaller guilds is that at least BDA and probably TMO would spend some time there, thus giving them time to go after other stuff.

But IMO thats just finetuning, the key is doing simultaneous repops and experimenting a bit. Overall things sound great.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well the way it affects the smaller guilds is that at least BDA and probably TMO would spend some time there, thus giving them time to go after other stuff.

That's a negative. TMO will leave it for last, and if BDA even attempts it they will have one person go train them while they continue killing everything else outside. What will really happen is BDA knows this and won't bother with VP, and instead try to get as many other mobs as possible.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a negative. TMO will leave it for last, and if BDA even attempts it they will have one person go train them while they continue killing everything else outside. What will really happen is BDA knows this and won't bother with VP, and instead try to get as many other mobs as possible.

exactly, BDA's policy is that we are not raiding VP under the current rule set, yes it's legal to train but it's not how we want to play the game, it's honestly a miserable experience for everyone involved

[Nips]

Also wanted to add, I think you should consider giving a warning to the full repop at least 24 hrs in advance. No one is going to want to miss these full repops, no matter what guild they are in, and you are pretty much going to force everyone to be on call 24/7 which seems to go against what you are trying to accomplish and what the playerbase wants.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Nips [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also wanted to add, I think you should consider giving a warning to the full repop at least 24 hrs in advance. No one is going to want to miss these full repops, no matter what guild they are in, and you are pretty much going to force everyone to be on call 24/7 which seems to go against what you are trying to accomplish and what the playerbase wants.

24 hours is way too much notice and would encourage poop socking, i think 10-20 minutes tops would be better or none at all. there still needs to be some element of competition between guilds that isnt poop socking or things will get boring quick.

[Nips]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

24 hours is way too much notice and would encourage poop socking, i think 10-20 minutes tops would be better or none at all. there still needs to be some element of competition between guilds that isnt poop socking or things will get boring quick.

How would a 24 hr notice or a 20 min notice make any difference at all on how much poopsocking goes on? The mob would still spawn at the exact time stated, but with at least a bit more warning, ppl wouldn't have to be on call 24/7. Would also give ppl time to strategize and the 24 hrs leading up to the spawns would be interesting.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nips [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also wanted to add, I think you should consider giving a warning to the full repop at least 24 hrs in advance. No one is going to want to miss these full repops, no matter what guild they are in, and you are pretty much going to force everyone to be on call 24/7 which seems to go against what you are trying to accomplish and what the playerbase wants.

The advance warning wouldn't hurt so much if there was a bag limit in place. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Nips [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also wanted to add, I think you should consider giving a warning to the full repop at least 24 hrs in advance. No one is going to want to miss these full repops, no matter what guild they are in, and you are pretty much going to force everyone to be on call 24/7 which seems to go against what you are trying to accomplish and what the playerbase wants.

Agree, in fact make it a week notice. Maybe there should be a poll up every week so we can vote on it. Afterwards, the gm's can lead the raids and hand out free cookies after the mobs are dead.

(this is a troll)

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agree, in fact make it a week notice. Maybe there should be a poll up every week so we can vote on it. Afterwards, the gm's can lead the raids and hand out free cookies after the mobs are dead.

(this is a troll)

you are obviously unhappy that the prices you set on all your trak bps and epic mq's might be affected by the changes being implemented but please keep the sarcastic banter in its appropriate forum