2012 Presidential Debates

[Slave]

I always laugh when I hear this. Educate yourself. 90% of the deficit over the last 4 years was things that Bush didn't pay for. Ironically, the Right's massive propaganda machine is the reason why Republicans are consistently nearly as informed as turtles.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always laugh when I hear this. Educate yourself. 90% of the deficit over the last 4 years was things that Bush didn't pay for. Ironically, the Right's massive propaganda machine is the reason why Republicans are consistently nearly as informed as turtles.

Lol, are we still blaming Bush in 2012?

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, are we still blaming Bush in 2012?

Only for the bad stuff. If something good happened post-2008 praise to Obama, if something bad happened he inherited it from Bush. This is common sense by now.

Also I genuinely feel sorry for you if you are wasting time watching a presidential debate, there are much better ways to waste time. *SPOILER ALERT* Obama and Romney are the same thing, sorry if that ruined the next four weeks of suspense for you. But you can start calling it Obamney, that's a fun word combo right?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only for the bad stuff. If something good happened post-2008 praise to Obama, if something bad happened he inherited it from Bush. This is common sense by now.

Also I genuinely feel sorry for you if you are wasting time watching a presidential debate, there are much better ways to waste time. *SPOILER ALERT* Obama and Romney are the same thing, sorry if that ruined the next four weeks of suspense for you. But you can start calling it Obamney, that's a fun word combo right?

I like

Robame

more.

[Visual]

Jesse Ventura 2016

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by FormerlyAMonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL. Romney never had a chance to win anyways.

Any black person who votes will be voting for Obama, just like in 08. They will literally go to vote for the 1st or 2nd time ever just cuz they'll be voting for another black man.

This of course is HUGELY advantageous to Obama, as he need not appeal specifically to the "minorities" because, again, they're all voting for him anyways.

This means he need tailor his lies only to everyone else, whilst Romney must lie to all the same people as Obama, AND all the racial minorities who probably already consider him to be a white devil.

Most democratic candidates get at least 90% of the black vote, so the fact that Obama got 96% of the black vote has less to do with the colour of his skin than it does his political beliefs. It seems from your post that you're saying they overwhelmingly voted for him just because he's also black, which isn't really supported by any data. Similarly, republican candidates tend to get more of the white vote, so it would be disingenuous for me to say that white people are only voting for Romney because they're just "voting for another white man".

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most democratic candidates get at least 90% of the black vote, so the fact that Obama got 96% of the black vote has less to do with the colour of his skin than it does his political beliefs. It seems from your post that you're saying they overwhelmingly voted for him just because he's also black, which isn't really supported by any data. Similarly, republican candidates tend to get more of the white vote, so it would be disingenuous for me to say that white people are only voting for Romney because they're just "voting for another white man".

Clinton won the black vote 83/10 and 84/12. Gore won it 90/9. Kerry won 88/11. Obama won the black vote 95/4 in 2008, and the amount of black voters increased by 4% (white voters decreased by 1%). In a recent poll, the current 2012 split was Obama 94, Romney 0.

He'd win the black vote anyway, but he's clearly winning it by historically large margins. A few percentage points is an enormous difference when talking about nationwide elections. You can debate the reasons for his success, but that's the fact.

He's also dominating the Latino vote by historically unseen margins (relative to typical Democratic nominees), and the proportion of Latino voters has skyrocketed.

And he's winning the gay vote by large margins, too -- but he's not winning it by any greater of a margin than your typical Democrat.

He's getting killed in white voter polls, but it doesn't really matter. He's going to win this election going away.

[Rushmore]

I didn't get to read all the posts so sorry if it was mentioned.

but all I read was pretty much how we are so far screwed it's not even funny. I agree.

No one will solve our problems. OR the worlds. We could probably agree and disagree on a lot of issues. I'm sorta in the middle. But GOD exists. If you don't believe in GOD there is no loss in asking him to speak to you and show you the truth one evening before you go to bed! If he exists!?

Study the bible and the history of Israel since becoming a country in 1948. "No generation shall pass!" We are in the last generations... Most of you know whether you believe in GOD or not...Things aren't going to get any better. No one has the answer.

IT says in my bible among many other things that in the last days the world will come against Israel. Lots of wars will happen. Famine! Earthquakes. Signs in the stars! It says in the dusty book that the JEWS would be scattered among the nations and one day gathered back to ISRAEL! Which has happened! 1948

It also predicts that the worlds problems will be so large that one man will come with the answers and everyone will love him! (the Antichrist)

That money is the root of all eveil... (SEE ALL THE DEBT....which leads to WARS)

EQ pals. Maybe I'm the idiot. Maybe you're the idiot. But only one of us... or someone else is right! Right or Wrong. There is only one truth!

Love...Rushmore

[Cwall]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I'm the idiot

will go with that one

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't get to read all the posts so sorry if it was mentioned.

but all I read was pretty much how we are so far screwed it's not even funny. I agree.

No one will solve our problems. OR the worlds. We could probably agree and disagree on a lot of issues. I'm sorta in the middle. But GOD exists. If you don't believe in GOD there is no loss in asking him to speak to you and show you the truth one evening before you go to bed! If he exists!?

Study the bible and the history of Israel since becoming a country in 1948. "No generation shall pass!" We are in the last generations... Most of you know whether you believe in GOD or not...Things aren't going to get any better. No one has the answer.

IT says in my bible among many other things that in the last days the world will come against Israel. Lots of wars will happen. Famine! Earthquakes. Signs in the stars! It says in the dusty book that the JEWS would be scattered among the nations and one day gathered back to ISRAEL! Which has happened! 1948

It also predicts that the worlds problems will be so large that one man will come with the answers and everyone will love him! (the Antichrist)

That money is the root of all eveil... (SEE ALL THE DEBT....which leads to WARS)

EQ pals. Maybe I'm the idiot. Maybe you're the idiot. But only one of us... or someone else is right! Right or Wrong. There is only one truth!

Love...Rushmore

Well now this thread is a sacred text >.<