Project 1999 needs to evolve with the players, just a bit

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my opinion the sucky thing about Paladins and Rangers is that they are mediocre for XP groups and mediocre for raids. As a Warrior or Rogue, sure your solo ability is limited but you know that if you hit 60 you'll be far more useful on raids than any caster except perhaps a wizard. All of those pimp soloing Enchanters and Shamans get to sit and buff on most raids and do very little.

However Paladins (while vastly underrated group tanks) don't really have a good role on raids. I spent a little time with Divinity and in my opinion one of their better decisions was to have hybrids tank anything they could, which turns out to be more than you think. Obviously hybrids will do better in Fear and Hate with their snap aggro. I remember in VD we usually had Anthrax tank everything but I think other than the actual bosses you'll probably get more mileage out of a hybrid tank.

Rangers unfortunately are just underpowered. A ranger is literally a worse tank, worse dps, and worse puller than a monk. Go blame Aradune.

Shadowknights are just as good as Paladins in group tanks and also have FD (keeps you alive), Harmtouch (great for Kunark mobs with 32k hp), and FD/CoS pulling for raids. So they are a lot more useful in the endgame.

Problem is the pros who beat the game as SK's, pallies, and rangers all rolled, bard, necro, sham, ench, mage as their mains, twinked an SK/pal/range hybrid alt and got bored, rolled wars found out what real mitigation was and stuck with it.

Not saying SK/Pal/Ranger isnt good... (and F u splorf ranger can pull U KNOW U watched one pull). And Ironicly (yes yes) frackkin TMo's best pullers (particularly in fear) back in the day were ... rangers ;p snare kiting half the zone. (were clicky snare is really nice in kubark people scoff at it) but you can keep like 20 mobs snared as a ranger with that.

Umm just they are no longer optimal and people who were attracted to them initially found nicer slices of cake... I'm sure theres allot of them out there shelved from 34-55. I think all the hybrids get a little better and funner in velious, at least rangers geat fear for animals and theres plenty of critters 1-55 to level on. But on both servers the mentality is to roll a level 1 with full pre planar BIS and play that way reguardless of class. Back on blue I was giggled at for rolling naked toons ;p

[Xadion]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is the pros who beat the game as SK's, pallies, and rangers all rolled, bard, necro, sham, ench, mage as their mains, twinked an SK/pal/range hybrid alt and got bored, rolled wars found out what real mitigation was and stuck with it.

my main is and always will be a SK :-)

Min/Maxer will never choose a pal/rng/sk or bard- they are not BEST at DPS or TANKING

SK/Pal are better tanks because of one situation or another- but never as a pure pure tank

Ranger can in situations be best DPS- well only once the bow stuff is fixed...

a hybrid's fun and enoyablity comes in that they can do alot of things that the traditional TANK or DPS role cannot so you get to experiance more things...the pentalty really sucks...