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Old 11-26-2009, 04:58 PM
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no I think that it is you who do not get it
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:01 PM
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Unless you have something constructive to add don't shit up my thread please.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:13 PM
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i already did twice sooooooooo, who's really the one not being constructive?
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:21 PM
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You contributed platitudes Karsten.

Not even a criticism, but how much of your time was spent in sola after level 20? I hear a lot of people were in that place. Not like it would have been a lot of work to make a group.

Widan all I can tell you is go to Freeport if you are determined to play a melee class.

Right now you still see people in ooc about derv and orc groups. Then you can go to oasis or to Unrest. Then I'm not sure. In the old days you would have gone to highkeep or maybe to Solusek if you got to be about 30. Then on to guk.

In the old days there were s. karana treant groups and all sorts of stuff i don't think we'll see again.

Anyway good luck. If you want to see insanely easy leveling make a necro though. The one I have is only level 4, but since you can get a red pet it is even more overpowered than live. It is probably something I just play with at times though.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:29 PM
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you chose to read the platitudes that I added at the end of posts in order to demonstrate the silliness of the original whine. /shrug

I think that too much focus is put on "what other people did that i can't do now" such that it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy for many of the people that would rather spend their time whining than leveling. For example, two assumptions about the way that I leveled were that 1. I started at day one on the server (incorrect, i started end of oct) and that I leveled up on gnomes in solA before the xp was nerfed (also incorrect, and actually the xp wasn't nerfed, it was just raised in other areas.)

Again, what it boils down to is whether or not a person wants to think proactively or whether they want to mire in mediocrity and look for excuses for already self-debilitating behavior
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:42 PM
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Karsten,

you aren't thinking things through.

So you got 50 levels in about a month right?

Tell me what areas you were in at each level range. Don't say it's too many, everyone knows that typically you stay in the same area for a few levels.

What was your progression? Also that is pretty darn fast, what is your /played?

Tell me your progression. Tonight I'll do a /w on each zone a couple times, then post in this thread what the population is at a certain time.

Also, to the best of your memory how many people were in these zones when you were leveling.

One month. How did you get your equipment? I mean did you camp it? Get it grouping?

Did someone in your guild give it to you?

I mean gosh, is it possible a lot of people who have maxxed were leveling when you were?

Don't speak in generalities. I want details.
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:06 PM
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halladar: no, you're not thinking things through.

however, would be happy to help answer some of your questions. remember as you read my progression, that --> I often put together my own groups from scratch rather than waiting passively for someone to invite me and you can too <--

levels 1-4: gfay, newbie soloing

levels 5-12: crushbone, generally between 2 and 10 people there, I'd group with however few or many were in my range and xp accordingly

levels 13-18: oasis, assloads of people. I'd group with however few or many were in my range and xp accordingly

levels 19-21: mistmoore courtyard, generally had to make full groups and then have the group move there. there's sort of a nomansland in this area where you're too high level for crocs and too low for solA.

levels 22-29: solA goblins, there were tons of people here (there still are) but i still had to make my own groups for two reasons -- the first is that the zone attracted every last crappy player on the server and i didn't want to group with them, and the second is that those players would often group together and not want me in their groups after I made that clear. However, if you can't find a group at this level range in solA you're doing something wrong.

levels 30-34: lguk ass/sup, sometimes i'd have to start my own groups and move there, sometimes there'd be enough people around. because of the DE mask it's easy to get people who want to come.

levels 35+: solb, kill kobolds. there'd either be a group of people there or i'd make one and move there.

as far as equipment goes, i chose not to care about it. I had a fine steel 2her that i used until level 22 (they drop like candy and is very easy to get one for free, hell i'll give any newbie melee a FS 2her if you ask me) and then an obsidian flamberge in solA (no drop, very easy to get if you level there). I'm still wearing pieces of bronze, but it's not a problem -- a level 50 can camp gear better than a level 20, regardless of class, and be more efficient at it as well.

really though, this conversation is, for the most part, supurfluous. I do hope i'm able to help with some of the leveling area tips, but doing any sort of analysis based on your criteria is also not necessarily going to yield the correct conclusions. For example, often when putting groups together for mm, lguk, or solb, there would be nobody in those particular zones when putting the group together. therefore, doing a /who all for those zones at any particular point in time won't mean anything.

I had (and have) a list of friends of people that i mesh well with and I know will do well in groups with me. I'll send out tells to them and see if they want to group, then i'll fill holes accordingly, and move to specific places. It's really not rocket science -- I do assume you have a similar list, you seem like a bright guy -- utilize it
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