Yes, Virigina. PVP does exist.

[SamwiseBanned]

VV was never meant to be a raiding guild, at least nothing like Nihilum. it actually started off small and based on sullon zek good team. however because so many people wanted to join i ended up bending the rules over and over until it eventually became something i didnt like. you guys are avoiding my point like the plague which only proves you guys dont give two shits about whether this server crumbles or not. as long as you have your daily raids you are fine with a 1 guild server. so VV didnt make it, it started from scratch. by the time kunark came out we barely had a group of 50s. people like destin and yourself have alot to say about how things should be but have literally worked for nothing on this server.

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys are avoiding my point like the plague which only proves you guys dont give two shits about whether this server crumbles or not.

You'd be wrong again there, a lot of us enjoy the server and like having competition. What is it you want exactly? If you're hoping some nihilum officers will give you some advice about running a guild I'd suggest sending them a tell. Otherwise I can tell you quality over quantity. VV invited everyone it could get its hands on, which is a strategy that's failed for every guild that's done it.

You can justify failures any way you want but besides kunark opening Nihilum never breaks 30 members on. Red Dawn has higher numbers on most of the time. We have higher levels maybe, did you want us to slow down? Maybe plevel some Red Dawn? Time to suck it up Samwise, put on your big boy pants and try leveling out of 51, or hide there forever and whine on the boards