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Yes, it promotes "competition" 75 29.18%
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:54 PM
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What is also lacking about the "poopsock" issue thus far in this thread is that it comes down to the variable of actually getting the mob or making it easier for another guild to get the mob by doing it. The only real zone that aids a "race" and is anti poopsock is fear because it all repops when CT does (assuming you don't allow the training aspect and force clears, considering back when it was considered griefing and was monitored people triggering DT cycles on purpose to be punished). With encounters like plane of hate and dungeon mobs like Trak all having mobs that you can clear ahead of time. It will become a thinking point on whether or not it is worth poopsocking yourselves when you can still lose the target to the current FTE > all rule by clearing the way for another guild or 2 or 5 to come "compete". As it has been stated if you go to the classic route and more people know the times, yes initially there may be poopsocking but in the end stuff will get sorted out due to people actually being near each other forcing interactions between guilds.

This will then lead to what others have said in regards to the raid scene getting cleared up by allowing for more people to have a say within what ideas go into it since they will now be involved.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:02 PM
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What is also lacking about the "poopsock" issue thus far in this thread is that it comes down to the variable of actually getting the mob or making it easier for another guild to get the mob by doing it. The only real zone that aids a "race" and is anti poopsock is fear because it all repops when CT does (assuming you don't allow the training aspect and force clears, considering back when it was considered griefing and was monitored people triggering DT cycles on purpose to be punished). With encounters like plane of hate and dungeon mobs like Trak all having mobs that you can clear ahead of time. It will become a thinking point on whether or not it is worth poopsocking yourselves when you can still lose the target to the current FTE > all rule by clearing the way for another guild or 2 or 5 to come "compete". As it has been stated if you go to the classic route and more people know the times, yes initially there may be poopsocking but in the end stuff will get sorted out due to people actually being near each other forcing interactions between guilds.

This will then lead to what others have said in regards to the raid scene getting cleared up by allowing for more people to have a say within what ideas go into it since they will now be involved.
I don't see every guild that would start to get involved all going for the same targets. Some guilds can't even hope to take down some of them, but they can shoot for the other targets.

TMO can take down 1-3 targets depending on what they are, but they can't take them all down at the same time and even then, it's not going to be worth the large guild size.

TMO doesn't need to talk with other guilds because they hold all the chips, get enough smaller guilds in the mix with bda and then you have lots of small shareholders who are equal to or greater than the large entity.
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