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Old 09-14-2012, 03:48 PM
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Youre also not saying he did or didn't because you don't know.

I do.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:50 PM
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You're right, I DONT KNOW. Thats why I'm not being an idiot saying "this is how I remember it so it must be true" because that could be the original way, it could be after a patch way, it could be the 2002 way, or it could be the 1999 way. Without evidence I dont make claims of "this is how it should be since I remember it this way"

The logic here is simple, just because you remember it a certain way, without evidence, making a claim is plain idiotic. If you feel there is a problem, find the evidence to back it up, don't rely on the developers to already know if you're correct or not. Don't make a claim in your posting that its "Game breaking raid issue: Sirran the Lunatic" and then your evidence is "I remember it differently". Thats akin to chicken little saying the sky is falling!

If you can't find evidence, then maybe you should tone down the rhetoric first and say, I dont remember this, but I believe its incorrect, could someone please help me find some evidence that its working as intended and not an erroneous piece of code?

When someone else finds evidence such as http://www.therunes.net/g-charm.htm that state chanters WERE able to charm him, perhaps you should acknowledge you were WRONG, instead of screaming to the heavens that you're still right because it was "fixed" at some point, and because you provide "evidence" about a different mob entirely does not mean you're correct about the mob you listed in the title of the thread. Read this as, if Key Master isn't currently DTing, then make a post about the KEY MASTER, not SIRRAN! Just because people are using it to their advantage while he IS charmable does not make it "game breaking", because at some point it WAS allowed.

We're here for the CLASSIC experience, bugs / exploits and all. If things were fixed in 2005 because they "never should have been that way" but always were from 1999 up to that point, then they SHOULD NOT get changed here because thats not part of our timeline.

Until you can find the evidence of charming Sirran being removed / changed, there is no reason for the Developers to take it out because nobody knows WHEN it should be removed. You posted about bard songs being fixed, but NOT about dictate. You claim that when the bard fix was implemented that it also fixed dictate. This MIGHT BE true! How can we know if that is true or not? EVIDENCE!

How do I feel about invis pulling? FEELINGS have nothing to do with it. If it worked the way it did on live, during the timeline we are in (our current timeline is somewhere between Sep 19 2000 when epics were released and Dec 6 2000 when Velious was released or anything prior to now, then its correct. If it doesn't match the way it worked on live during that time frame, it is incorrect.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:20 PM
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logical text.
I hate to say it Aenarie, but Nirgon is trolling you hard. He has selective reading, no matter how logical and correct your responses are, he will nitpick it and redirect conversations. It happens in every single thread, it's just the way it is. He wants a classic server that he doesn't even play on anymore
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:23 PM
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he can troll me if he wants, just helps to prove the point even further [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:33 PM
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You're right, I DONT KNOW.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:10 PM
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I'm not sure how me saying I dont know something is a bad thing? At least I dont declare that I do and am proven wrong

You're STILL an idiot!
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:30 PM
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I'm not sure how me saying I dont know something is a bad thing? At least I dont declare that I do and am proven wrong

You're STILL an idiot!
Go find my patch note where it says that the bard charm was fixed.

You just sound like one of the "omg Blizz this game is too hard come on Blizz" kids to me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Ask for a challenging, classic experience. Respect those who crusade to support it.

You didn't address me stating that dragons (or non humanoid mobs - yes most undead count) should not wield or proc their weapons and further they should not dual wield (attack 4 times with double attack!) when doing so. You're welcome?

It might occur to you I have a strong memory of game mechanics and a keen eye.


Here's another: I have not *once* seen a mob on the red server at least say "time to die soandso!".


One bug fix at a time bro. Take a deep breath and calm down. The truth will set you free.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:19 PM
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Go find my patch note where it says that the bard charm was fixed.
Bard song != Dictate
Key master DTing != Sirran DTing

how many times must one tell you to not confuse one thing with another?

Still an idiot!
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:27 AM
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Right he was briefly charmable by bards while that was broken.

Remember, you don't know [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

If everyone else here knows so much why are they missing so many obvious things missing or wrong?
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:14 PM
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point proven lol

On the real, youre a good dude Nirgon. After reading the 100+ page thread by Uth, I have respect for you for wanting justice
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