Raren Loses...all the time.

[Emil]

I never post on this drama bullshit but you are calling us exploiters cause we got a goblin train from feared pets? Like you did last week?

[Aadill]

Pictures are worth a thousand words.

Unless those words are all HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Then even the pictures are worthless.

[Ripcord]

I am a nerd bitch

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That particular raid was the reason that there needs to be an established etiquette involving multiple raid forces in the same zone. As of current, the rules are only applying to the boss mobs, not placement in zone, or even activities while in the same zone.

In that case, evidence was AT BEST inconclusive as there were multiple agros well before the wipe took place. I feel it's safe to assume that reducing the possibility of problems is going to cause less headaches overall.

As Modus said, and I'm sure you'd agree, any "evidence" out of context is going to easily sway a decision, if the GMs even bother to continue dealing with it. With both guilds keeping some sort of inane "watchful eye of justice" on each other, drama will always ensue.

Claim a mob through legitimate means - camp it, mobilize quicker, whatever. When someone comes to apply for their attempt, that is to be done. After that, there should be no drama.

When you use methods to kill a mob that result in the possibility of you failing, tough. If things turn to complete shit well beyond your control, going beyond the game's scope, call a GM. If you fuck up legitimately, shutup and get back in line.


To any and all: If you want to FFA like a bunch of mouthbreathing retards go ahead. If you want to actually participate in a video game in which the entire aspect that so many people actually give this game credit for (community), then stop acting like little shits.

Agree with most everything here except for the claiming through camping. Anyone can camp and we know it doesn't take skill, just time and numbers. Mobilizing was what I loved best about classic. Assigning an arbitrary value of 15 guild/raid members simply bumped it from a couple trackers to lots of people afking in zones. It hasn't changed the innate behaviour, courtesy or dickery of guilds and how they interact, and in fact I believe the set numbers required has only made it worse.

Park trackers? Fine. But camping with X arbitrary amount, simply so they can claim only to have the other guild still _sitting_in_the_zone_ at all with the potential for interference that has been claimed on both sides? Pants on head retarded.

[Aadill]

The thing is everyone wants to be competitive without acknowledging the server's staff and all of their hard work. I'm all for killing raid targets and by golly I want to kill all of them, but yowza.... I think as dumb little kids we were more civil about it than this.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The mechanics for Vox on this emu aren't even the same as they were a couple weeks ago. You're speaking from a position of nearly complete ignorance, Phallax. Please don't try to be an expert based on one kill by so many players that it trivialized the encounter.

Is Modus an officer of Fish Bait? That little guy sure does put on airs.

Dont even try and insult anyones intelligence here by acting like Vox has some super serial secret mechanics...Ill spill them so all know!

Shes a dragon, she fears and has a cold based AOE and she CHs herself. The only thing that "changed" in the past weeks are AC and HPs maybe, I dunno I wasnt around for the change. But to act like her "mechanics" are any different than from live other than no raid push is just "ignorance" as you so cleverly put it.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing is everyone wants to be competitive without acknowledging the server's staff and all of their hard work. I'm all for killing raid targets and by golly I want to kill all of them, but yowza.... I think as dumb little kids we were more civil about it than this.

Pretty sure we can all agree we don't want GMs to have to babysit.
I mean sure they could simply just have it so that when a GM is on and if they so choose they could spawn an encounter and babysit it but I am fairly certain 1) The GMs dont want to do that, it's more work 2) There'd be fewer raid bosses available from the former, and at less random times 3) It's the exact opposite of the hands off policy they wish they could have.

[Cyrano]

It's amazing an officer (Modus) offers so little input, ignores any real contention to the veracity of his comments and then acts like he just blew our minds with truth and savvy.

Like I said, the moment you guys kick this moron I'll take you seriously.

[jilena]

Originally Posted by Emil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never post on this drama bullshit but you are calling us exploiters cause we got a goblin train from feared pets? Like you did last week?

I was kidding about the goblins. Just saying. Also I am not in DA : P

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dont even try and insult anyones intelligence here by acting like Vox has some super serial secret mechanics...Ill spill them so all know!

Shes a dragon, she fears and has a cold based AOE and she CHs herself. The only thing that "changed" in the past weeks are AC and HPs maybe, I dunno I wasnt around for the change. But to act like her "mechanics" are any different than from live other than no raid push is just "ignorance" as you so cleverly put it.

Your ego is vastly larger than your intellect. There is no point in attempting to communicate with someone who pretends knowledge.