Where did WoW go right?

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is well past the point of dicussing if ever raided in WoW. I'm still not really sure why anyone would want to lie about that though. Well at the least you are walking me down memory lane.

Hmmm...

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really have a problem with you but your posts are often pointlessly convoluted with your manafactured game histories for people.

So you accuse people of lying about their game histories, yet when you factually state that you have limited experience with WoW raiding and people use that information to rightly give your opinions less worth, you get mad and accuse people of lying about their game histories?

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by bluntfang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmmm...



So you accuse people of lying about their game histories, yet when you factually state that you have limited experience with WoW raiding and people use that information to rightly give your opinions less worth, you get mad and accuse people of lying about their game histories?

I didn't acuse anyone else about lying about their history. I have decent raid experience in Vanilla, BC, and WoTLK. I can't really say anything about Cata though cause I really didn't play it.

I still stand by what I said in the first place, EQ is overall more difficult even if WoW is more complex in combat. If that difficulty comes from RNG and more things that would you consider a time sink, well tough. Thats how it is.

[lawll]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still stand by what I said in the first place, EQ is overall more difficult even if WoW is more complex in combat. If that difficulty comes from RNG and more things that would you consider a time sink, well tough. Thats how it is.

Saying timesinks make the game more difficult is a opinion and most mmo players won't agree with you.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by lawll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying timesinks make the game more difficult is a opinion and most mmo players won't agree with you.

Unless you have conducted a survey that is just an opinion.

It's pointless to argue with you guys because you have this definition that difficulty is just needing to press more buttons during a fight and write off everything else in the game.

Pelantlies for failure like corpse runs and xp loss are just timesinks.

Pulling mobs is just a timesink.

Leveling and soloing ability doesn't count in the argument for some bizzare reason.

Quests being less hand holding in EQ are once again just time sinks.

Fine, how about agro management? Pretty much brain dead work with Add-Ons. Forming groups? There is a tool for that in WoW. WoW also has tokens for you to buy end game gear, or is random drops just another time sink?

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless you have conducted a survey that is just an opinion.

Want a survey? The current subscription rate of WoW vs EQLive. Or how about subscription rates of both games at their peak population.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by bluntfang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Want a survey? The current subscription rate of WoW vs EQLive. Or how about subscription rates of both games at their peak population.

You went full troll bud.

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You went full troll bud.

More making personal attacks instead of addressing content.

[Dirtnap]

I took a nap, and this is still going on? Damn. Just drop it.

WoW crusaders will always win, because they like to beat dead horses.

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by bluntfang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Want a survey? The current subscription rate of WoW vs EQLive. Or how about subscription rates of both games at their peak population.

Problem with that is that EQ at its peak was amazing for any other mmo on the market, and any game in general that had more than 100k players was god tier (i believe EQ peaked at 500k-600k. That popularity brought MMOs to the spotlight, where WoW's vanilla market (log in for 15 minutes, have fun, log off) took over because EQ was still heavy in the "hard core" market. And WoW had a following from WC3/SC

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem with that is that EQ at its peak was amazing for any other mmo on the market, and any game in general that had more than 100k players was god tier (i believe EQ peaked at 500k-600k. That popularity brought MMOs to the spotlight, where WoW's vanilla market (log in for 15 minutes, have fun, log off) took over because EQ was still heavy in the "hard core" market. And WoW had a following from WC3/SC

The point still stands that WoW had a greater subscription rate than EQ did (this is probably true for any point in WoWs life), which is the point and why we're trying to have a discussion about where WoW went right (well I guess that was over a long time ago though).