Timesinks != difficult

[Houdiny]

Originally Posted by lawll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grinding isn't so bad when you find good ways to hide it but not straight in your face grind like EQ was.

This is very true. If there is an objective or a reason for grinding it does mask it some.

I myself enjoy grinding. I like sitting in a group with others chatting, interacting, having fun. I don't however like going from NPC to NPC loading up on quests and soloing/duoing my way ahead. I am not singling out any other mmo here this is the jist of exp'ing in every MMO it seems. And it just doesn't feel very MMO to me.

In EQ you worried about your reputation, you thought twice about double crossing someone, or another guild. Didn't always stop you but in the back of your mind you're always thinking is this going to ruin me in the long run, are my guildmates going to be upset, will they kick me?

There was consequences for the way you held yourself in EQ. Most guilds didn't recruit tools that had a bad rep for ninja looting or training people. And this is all credited to EQ being more personal than most other games these days are. It's spending those 5 hours in Solb that you get to know people.

[Arclanz]

Ooo some flamey replies. Apparently I hit a nerve. Too much fluff and b.s., though.

Originally Posted by bluejam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...comparing any noteworthy real life achievement with gaining more pixels is just lol.

If gaining pixels doesn't matter to you, why are you spending your limited supply of real life here.

Originally Posted by Houdiny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... I don't however like going from NPC to NPC loading up on quests and soloing/duoing my way ahead. I am not singling out any other mmo here this is the jist of exp'ing in every MMO it seems. And it just doesn't feel very MMO to me...

I couldn't agree more. One reason I quickly lost interest in vanguard is how they whored out the quests. The game was so linear. It wasn't about exploration, and it should have been. It was about mindless constant clicking of tasks/quest NPCs; and rushing to the next station to complete them because that made up the bulk of your xp. It felt far more grindy to me than sitting at Derv 1 in North Ro for three hours. Only difference was no one (including me) had time to talk since we had to run to the next quest npc.