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Yes. Keep it. 28 30.43%
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:14 PM
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Another added benefit is it creates the need to sometimes get out into the world and xp, to regain the minor loss built up over time. This inturn leads to more pvp as you put yourself out in the world grinding,etc.
Lol @ your "benefit". Youd be out there pvping anyway.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:20 PM
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Another reason why to kill xp loss in pvp is that it would slow gear progression. Since we probably wont ever have item loot, it means people on the server will never, ever lose that gear edge.

We should make getting gear harder than just sitting in a raid zone uncontested for months and let them get their gear difference always bigger and bigger.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:43 PM
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Another reason why to kill xp loss in pvp is that it would slow gear progression. Since we probably wont ever have item loot, it means people on the server will never, ever lose that gear edge.

We should make getting gear harder than just sitting in a raid zone uncontested for months and let them get their gear difference always bigger and bigger.
WTF is this? Stop being a coward and do something about it! Contest them! You on food stamps too bro? Jesus....
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:03 PM
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WTF is this? Stop being a coward and do something about it! Contest them! You on food stamps too bro? Jesus....
lol i was in the only guild (FF) that even attempted to try, with holo. Trust me on this, even the most dedicated pvpers dont wanna deal with that xp loss shit.

When they stopped trying, i joined nihilum cuz there was nothing else to do (coupled with the racism in FF vent)

I joined Nihi cuz i never had raided on live so i figured why not experience something new.

It was something new allrite, sitting all nite in fear night after night with no one, ever, zoning in to contest us. Quit not long after that, bored to tears.

Im in your guild btw, and i anticipate the moment where morale will drop because no one is willing to take the xp loss challenging Nihilum anymore, and thats when ill be quitting for good, after giving fun pvp one last shot on this server.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:29 PM
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We should make getting gear harder than just sitting in a raid zone uncontested for months and let them get their gear difference always bigger and bigger.
Maybe I misunderstood what you mean't. The best players, the best team, doesn't always win! (Or maybe they do) But if you're number #1 then your number #1! If you want to be on top then you have to take it from who's on top! No need to change the rules...Just go get it! Like you said sitting in fear uncontested is boring! I don't mean to be so harsh but I'm just tired of seeing people cry and complain when the only solution if it matters that much is to go WIN! The difference in losing and winning in any aspect of life is if you can take a loss and get back up and go at it again! If Vae Victis or anyone for that matter is going to beat Nihilium they need to be prepared to lose. But isn't that what makes this fun?
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:35 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood what you mean't. The best players, the best team, doesn't always win! (Or maybe they do) But if you're number #1 then your number #1! If you want to be on top then you have to take it from who's on top! No need to change the rules...Just go get it! Like you said sitting in fear uncontested is boring! I don't mean to be so harsh but I'm just tired of seeing people cry and complain when the only solution if it matters that much is to go WIN! The difference in losing and winning in any aspect of life is if you can take a loss and get back up and go at it again! If Vae Victis or anyone for that matter is going to beat Nihilium they need to be prepared to lose. But isn't that what makes this fun?
Thats my whole point, nobody will bother challenging them, trust me ive been there. FF basically do nothing but pvp, talk alot of shit and they didnt want to go in and challenge nihilum cuz its pointless. You cant win a war of attrition with xp pvp loss.

Without xp loss, you could go after Nihilum say 15 to 30, focus fire the worst players and make em log first. Then try to move in the main group 15 to 25. But with xp loss the time you have to spend getting all taht xp back makes it that nobody tries.

I will try trust me, but also trust me, history will repeat itself morale will drop and nobody will challenge nihi if xp loss stays.
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Thats my whole point, nobody will bother challenging them, trust me ive been there. FF basically do nothing but pvp, talk alot of shit and they didnt want to go in and challenge nihilum cuz its pointless. You cant win a war of attrition with xp pvp loss.

Without xp loss, you could go after Nihilum say 15 to 30, focus fire the worst players and make em log first. Then try to move in the main group 15 to 25. But with xp loss the time you have to spend getting all taht xp back makes it that nobody tries.

I will try trust me, but also trust me, history will repeat itself morale will drop and nobody will challenge nihi if xp loss stays.
No one stays on top forever.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:52 PM
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Thats my whole point, nobody will bother challenging them, trust me ive been there. FF basically do nothing but pvp, talk alot of shit and they didnt want to go in and challenge nihilum cuz its pointless. You cant win a war of attrition with xp pvp loss.

Without xp loss, you could go after Nihilum say 15 to 30, focus fire the worst players and make em log first. Then try to move in the main group 15 to 25. But with xp loss the time you have to spend getting all taht xp back makes it that nobody tries.

I will try trust me, but also trust me, history will repeat itself morale will drop and nobody will challenge nihi if xp loss stays.
Oh item loot. Sweet, sweet item loot. If a guild wants to roll around with nice droppables, they should run the risk of them being lootable.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:15 PM
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Oh item loot. Sweet, sweet item loot. If a guild wants to roll around with nice droppables, they should run the risk of them being lootable.
Nilbog thank you for your hard work. I don't expect you to listen to me. But take it from someone who loves loves the Day Z game atm. Item loot is the absolute worst thing thing you can do for this server! Please stop now.

Now if you could code the server so that everything was droppable and that once you equipped a piece of gear that gear was always perma stuck on your toon to that slot then by all means make it item loot. (meaning it was stuck on you but if you died someone could loot it)

Otherwise its a server of 99% of the server always running around naked and avoiding pvp. We want to encourage PVP! As more people have said ...even people that like Item loot it's just a terrible idea.

Back to DAY Z its a great game but it's shelf life is very very short.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:22 PM
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Item loot is the absolute worst thing thing you can do for this server! Please stop now.
It's okay. I've stated that since the server is already running and guilds have been created, I am neither in favor of teams, nor item loot at this time. It's too late. However, some things could be contestable at this point because people would have formed together to farm certain guilds of items.

People are afraid of item loot. /comfort

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