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Old 07-22-2012, 10:36 PM
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If that were the case, then what good is your gun? Funding and armories would be split, and you'd be free to arm yourself to the teeth with modern American equipment and fight your war by traditional means. Your crap civilian weaponry would still be useless, you just might not be routed in this theoretical civil war.

(Note that I'm not actually agreeing that this type of civil war is even remotely possible, just pointing out that it doesn't serve as an impetus to stockpile guns.
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:03 PM
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If that were the case, then what good is your gun? Funding and armories would be split, and you'd be free to arm yourself to the teeth with modern American equipment and fight your war by traditional means. Your crap civilian weaponry would still be useless, you just might not be routed in this theoretical civil war.

(Note that I'm not actually agreeing that this type of civil war is even remotely possible, just pointing out that it doesn't serve as an impetus to stockpile guns.
Having guns (regardless of what they are) is better than not having any guns, regardless of who you are facing. Go back and look at history, people still fought back with less advanced weaponry better than the ones who had little to no weaponry.
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:24 PM
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Stealin beat me to it. It's all about weapon proficiency. I regularly shoot the guns I own, and will perform much better with the guns I practice with than another gun even if it is superior. Besides, did you see my pic? My arsenal is pretty decent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:28 PM
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Having guns (regardless of what they are) is better than not having any guns, regardless of who you are facing. Go back and look at history, people still fought back with less advanced weaponry better than the ones who had little to no weaponry.
I disagree with this assessment. You're better off not fighting than attacking the US military with a musket. Your entire argument is predicated on the assumption that you're better off "fighting back".

There is no fighting back if the US government wants you dead. Whether you have a crossbow, a handgun, an assault rifle, or a fucking bazooka, you're not doing shit about an unmanned drone that wipes you out before you know it's there. This basis for having a gun is a fantasy.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:45 AM
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I disagree with this assessment. You're better off not fighting than attacking the US military with a musket. Your entire argument is predicated on the assumption that you're better off "fighting back".

There is no fighting back if the US government wants you dead. Whether you have a crossbow, a handgun, an assault rifle, or a fucking bazooka, you're not doing shit about an unmanned drone that wipes you out before you know it's there. This basis for having a gun is a fantasy.
Ever seen someone win without a gun? Happens all the time, its called fighting a real war instead of a pretend war.

The wars you see on TV with the big missiles and fancy robot drone ships are faught against an un-organized force taught by the CIA with 20 year old tactics.

There are more stealthy and subversive ways of overthrowing the "Power Elite" without even going after the military. You can't have jackbooted thugs if those jackbooted thugs dont get food, water, and shelter.

Guns will not win a conventional war, but are useful personal protection in many instances were a small squad of jackbooted thugs are attacking a critical target.

They are also usefull for assasination. Just as regular old fashoined bows are... a bow shot in the dark is far more effective then a loud sniper shot if you can get close to your target =P Even conventional standard issue body armor does not work so well against the peircing shape of knives and arrows.

Now I am bording on scary patriot act stuff. But it is not inconcievable that a sizeable portion of the population might wish to resist the "Govmnt". Theoretically it could be done... disrupting communications and supply lines, we would win by attrition, the soldiers would eventually just go home and join the rest of the average folk or city states or whatever while the bankers, backers and rich could not fund a sustained "Thermo-nuclear robo war".

This is why hillbillies with guns and home made knives are such a threat to the people who have the Mccaininites and Obamians by the ballz.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:48 AM
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Double post with Internet Nazi's +5 for the win...

Also look at world war II, ever seen the movie about the sniper guys in Russia versus the "Superior" germans?

Who won that conflict, bunch of hillbilly russian farmers in buildings with hunting rifles.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215750/ Enemy at the Gates ftw...
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:00 AM
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Can't tell if serious.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:04 AM
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My ninja skills are far superior to your lack of ability to tell if I'm serious or not P

But seriously if you think demanding that all the hillbillies disarm is gonna make you safer and NOT MATTER to them, your nuts.

Because it does matter... its not your right to fuck with our rights in this regard and the problem with this country degenerating into a shithole is because people cant just shut it and start lobbying for community shit to start fixing the economy instead countries like germany pay out shit tons of money for startups to use whatever 'super clean new energy they have'

this is called promoting something

its far better then banning shit

we've banned just about everything meaningful in this damn country or are working on it and made enough jackass laws and commericial regulations to just about fuck ourselves.

So yeah, scream ban guns, waste all your time and energy on it...

why don't ya'll STFU and like... promote deregulating the tech for molten salt reactors, or campaigning for that shit? why not subsidise it and create jobs building them... but no ya'll are about to ban nuclear too, not just faulty crappy nuclear but all nuclear...

FIX YO OWN SHIT, then tell the hillbillies what to do
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:08 AM
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Also at the rate the economy is failing your super awesoem high tech elite shock troopers would basically have to turtle in one city and get resupplied from outside the country... this may infact be a strategy that could come to fruition... by all means leave the rest of the country to the crazed hillbillies
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:11 AM
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I don't know what kind of drugs you're on, but they must be awesome.
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