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Old 07-22-2012, 08:39 PM
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There's a pretty enormous gap between just rolling over for someone that "comes for me" and carrying a gun into every movie theater, coffee shop, and Chuck E Cheese I happen upon.
If you took a poll on the people from survivors of the Colorado shooting asking "Would you have liked a gun on you, that night in the movie theater" I wonder what the results would be. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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There's also a difference between owning a gun in case for some unanticipated reason you may need it in the future, and owning a gun because you think it empowers you to take on the US government if need arises.
You make assumptions that clearly empower your case on this. If there was a civil war, do you honestly believe that active duty military members would unanimously follow orders to kill American civilians? As a veteran myself, I wouldn't.

Between a split in the military (and one can only hope that the majority of soldiers in this country would hold to their oath to protect the Constitution), Veterans, trained Militia, armed civilians, all fighting on familiar ground with support from local communities. I don't think it would be as cut and dry as you make it.

You paint it like some rogue civilian with a pistol going up against the full might of the government, three letter agencies, and military. Of course such a scenario is ridiculous, but it's a rather weak position on why people shouldn't own a gun.
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:56 PM
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If you took a poll on the people from survivors of the Colorado shooting asking "Would you have liked a gun on you, that night in the movie theater" I wonder what the results would be. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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I imagine many of these people will emerge from this scenario with a new-found loathing of guns, actually.

I mean, not every victim of molestation goes on to be a pervert.
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:10 PM
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If you took a poll on the people from survivors of the Colorado shooting asking "Would you have liked a gun on you, that night in the movie theater" I wonder what the results would be. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



You make assumptions that clearly empower your case on this. If there was a civil war, do you honestly believe that active duty military members would unanimously follow orders to kill American civilians? As a veteran myself, I wouldn't.

Between a split in the military (and one can only hope that the majority of soldiers in this country would hold to their oath to protect the Constitution), Veterans, trained Militia, armed civilians, all fighting on familiar ground with support from local communities. I don't think it would be as cut and dry as you make it.

You paint it like some rogue civilian with a pistol going up against the full might of the government, three letter agencies, and military. Of course such a scenario is ridiculous, but it's a rather weak position on why people shouldn't own a gun.
If you took a poll on the survivors of the Jersey shark attacks asking "Would you have preferred to be in a nuclear-powered submarine with Tomahawk missiles?", I wonder what the results would be.

And there wouldn't be a civil war, so I'd rather not engage in masturbatory fantasies about me, conscientious objectors, and armed civilians hiding in the mountains and taking out tanks with Patrick Swayze's ghost.
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:19 PM
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I imagine many of these people will emerge from this scenario with a new-found loathing of guns, actually.

I mean, not every victim of molestation goes on to be a pervert.
lol because owning a gun is like being a sexual predator.


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If you took a poll on the survivors of the Jersey shark attacks asking "Would you have preferred to be in a nuclear-powered submarine with Tomahawk missiles?", I wonder what the results would be.

And there wouldn't be a civil war, so I'd rather not engage in masturbatory fantasies about me, conscientious objectors, and armed civilians hiding in the mountains and taking out tanks with Patrick Swayze's ghost.
Another wonderful analogy. I got nothing man. You win!

Oh wait, your comparing a civil war to Red Dawn... honestly?
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