Americans and Guns (post pics of your armory !)

[Sodapop]

For relapse, collection throughout the years, i have about half left.
some 1911s, a glock, p226 navy, winchester 30 30, few aks, rock river arms ar, remington 870 knock off and my favorite: a 1936 sears and roebuck 22 bolt action i picked up at auction.

god bless texas!

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[Harmonium]

Nice collection ^

[Sodapop]

and for those who wonder why i have such weapons, bare in mind i have a mullet and i drive a dirt bike to work. semi auto large round rifles work better then plain sight bolt action when you hunt hogs from a helicopter during the summer to keep crops intact during the heat. no trolling.

[Harmonium]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you seriously comparing the potency of the Israeli military machine to jewish civilians living scattered among Europe?

Not like your implying. You really have a knack for taking a concept and running into absurdity for the sake of your arguments don't you?

You also have this strange notion that I think that armed jewish civilians would have defeated Hitler on the field of battle. I think that an armed Jewish peoples scattered in Europe would have had many more survivors, that is many would have been able to succeed in escaping. Those that failed to escape would have incurred losses for the Nazi's. Apparently you think their best bet was to just... give in, roll over? Rhetorical question mind you, this debate has grown quite stale.

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They were decisively defeated by a far superior Israeli military, heavily funded by Western nations and provided with top of the line, sophisticated equipment and modern command doctrine and signals intelligence.

MYTH

“The United States helped Israel defeat the Arabs in six days.”

FACT

The United States tried to prevent the war through negotiations, but it could not persuade Nasser or the other Arab states to cease their belligerent statements and actions. Still, right before the war, President Johnson warned: “Israel will not be alone unless it decides to go alone.” 16 Then, when the war began, the State Department announced: “Our position is neutral in thought, word and deed.”

Moreover, while the Arabs were falsely accusing the United States of airlifting supplies to Israel, Johnson imposed an arms embargo on the region (France, Israel’s other main arms supplier, also embargoed arms to Israel).

By contrast, the Soviets were supplying massive amounts of arms to the Arabs. Simultaneously, the armies of Kuwait, Algeria, Saudi Arabia and Iraq were contributing troops and arms to the Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian fronts.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's an exciting life you're living, son. Toting that iron with you every wear you go, bullets whizzing by your head. Oh, wait. You've been watching movies again and forgetting it's not real, haven't you?

One of the service men who was actually in the Aurora shooting did exactly what I typed. He threw his girlfriend to the floor and covered her with his body. Then he took one for the team. She survived.

Standing there and returning fire is the fastest way to becoming one of the victims. You won't find one member of the police force or military who will endorse that tactic, unless you count Dirty Harry. You're seriously delusional, kid.

So now you've gone from throwing yourself onto the ground to hide and calling it sane to throwing yourself over another to save another life. Which is it?

That's not exactly what you typed retard.

Keep switching up your stories and rewording what we both type, makes you sound real intelligent.

It's also amazing that a marine vet would think about standing and returning fire, way to make yourself a big ass target. This is the 2nd thing you've typed that makes me seriously doubt you ever served in anything close to the military.

Either you're the dumbest fucking marine to ever wear the uniform or you're just another harrison "combat medic".

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Relapse2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nice collection Sodapop

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Harmonium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not like your implying. You really have a knack for taking a concept and running into absurdity for the sake of your arguments don't you?

You also have this strange notion that I think that armed jewish civilians would have defeated Hitler on the field of battle. I think that an armed Jewish peoples scattered in Europe would have had many more survivors, that is many would have been able to succeed in escaping. Those that failed to escape would have incurred losses for the Nazi's. Apparently you think their best bet was to just... give in, roll over? Rhetorical question mind you, this debate has grown quite stale.

The contention was that arming the populace would prevent a government from asserting a monopoly of force, all I was arguing was "No". Whether they would escape or rates of survival would be irrelevant to the topic.

Originally Posted by Harmonium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MYTH

“The United States helped Israel defeat the Arabs in six days.”

FACT

The United States tried to prevent the war through negotiations, but it could not persuade Nasser or the other Arab states to cease their belligerent statements and actions. Still, right before the war, President Johnson warned: “Israel will not be alone unless it decides to go alone.” 16 Then, when the war began, the State Department announced: “Our position is neutral in thought, word and deed.”

Moreover, while the Arabs were falsely accusing the United States of airlifting supplies to Israel, Johnson imposed an arms embargo on the region (France, Israel’s other main arms supplier, also embargoed arms to Israel).

By contrast, the Soviets were supplying massive amounts of arms to the Arabs. Simultaneously, the armies of Kuwait, Algeria, Saudi Arabia and Iraq were contributing troops and arms to the Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian fronts.

The Israelis were driving American made tanks, flying European made aircraft, using NATO small arms, wielded by troops trained in part by NATO advisors. Their military system including signals intelligence, radar technology, and combat doctrine were all bolstered by American aid.

Claiming Israel didn't have American help simply because American troops weren't on the ground ignores much of the reality of the situation.

“Our position is neutral in thought, word and deed.”

Do you honestly, sincerely think the American position was neutral? They may have said that on the international stage, but in reality, the situation was very different.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So now you've gone from throwing yourself onto the ground to hide and calling it sane to throwing yourself over another to save another life. Which is it?

That's not exactly what you typed retard.

Keep switching up your stories and rewording what we both type, makes you sound real intelligent.

It's also amazing that a marine vet would think about standing and returning fire, way to make yourself a big ass target. This is the 2nd thing you've typed that makes me seriously doubt you ever served in anything close to the military.

Either you're the dumbest fucking marine to ever wear the uniform or you're just another harrison "combat medic".

Do you even try to make any sense, gun-slinging hero?

Here's combat training 101, just for you:

When you hear ordnance, take cover.

You get to have the last word, now. I won't respond to you again because you're clearing arguing just to argue. There's no content to anything you type.

[Amesplayerofgames]

I picture Autotune as an overweight texan with a rat tail haircut wearing a lynyrd skynyrd t-shirt.

Yee Haw you dirty redneck.

THE NORTH WON THE WAR, GET OVER IT.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you even try to make any sense, gun-slinging hero?

Here's combat training 101, just for you:

When you hear ordnance, take cover.

You get to have the last word, now. I won't respond to you again because you're clearing arguing just to argue. There's no content to anything you type.

Oh really? So you took what I said and reworded it back to me. I didn't think anyone could be more of an idiot than Gwence, I was clearly wrong about that.