Americans and Guns (post pics of your armory !)

[Nikon]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An isolated incident of batman fever

I'll pass that statement to my two military friends that were at that theater last night and direct them your way. And for those of you whining about 'if they had guns they could have shot back', this guy used a GAS CANISTER and FULL TACTICAL GEAR when he entered the theater and anyone with a conceal and carry permit that is in their right mind would not pull their gun and fire into a DARK SMOKEY ROOM of civilians at a movie theater. You guys need need serious reality check.

[LordFresh]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll pass that statement to my two military friends that were at that theater last night and direct them your way. And for those of you whining about 'if they had guns they could have shot back', this guy used a GAS CANISTER and FULL TACTICAL GEAR when he entered the theater and anyone with a conceal and carry permit that is in their right mind would not pull their gun and fire into a DARK SMOKEY ROOM of civilians at a movie theater. You guys need need serious reality check.

The idea behind CCW is for protection of myself and family - so we can get to safety. It isnt meant for a hero move were we save the day. Most times saving the day doesnt happen and the hero ends up dead.

The way a CCW would of worked is if the guy was walking the isles like he says and a CCW holder was laying on the floor and had a good close shot.

Anyone can do this sort of crime - even if all guns were banned right now it would take many many years before criminals or crazy people couldnt get them.

I personally would of had my weapon in my pocket with the ability to pull it had the shooter come in front of me or my family running out.

Even with a bullet proof jacket 4-5 shots in the chest would stop him for a while.

Remember CCW can also get you killed in this sort of enviroment. Police or citizens seeing you holding a pistol while this is going on makes them think you are the gunman.

[LordFresh]

May I add that anyone put in that position this morning even the worste hater of firearms would be WISHING they had a fucking gun on them.

Guns are fun as a hobby - as a tool of murder they are gross. When someone turns it into a tool for murder - your only option is having a gun on you. There currently isnt a better tool for self defense in this world.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll pass that statement to my two military friends that were at that theater last night and direct them your way. And for those of you whining about 'if they had guns they could have shot back', this guy used a GAS CANISTER and FULL TACTICAL GEAR when he entered the theater and anyone with a conceal and carry permit that is in their right mind would not pull their gun and fire into a DARK SMOKEY ROOM of civilians at a movie theater. You guys need need serious reality check.

I meant no disrespect to anyone in particular and this was indeed a tragedy. Seriously, pass along my condolences to anyone you know that was personally affected by it. 'Isolated case of batman fever' seems inconsiderate. I'm sorry for that.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll pass that statement to my two military friends that were at that theater last night and direct them your way. And for those of you whining about 'if they had guns they could have shot back', this guy used a GAS CANISTER and FULL TACTICAL GEAR when he entered the theater and anyone with a conceal and carry permit that is in their right mind would not pull their gun and fire into a DARK SMOKEY ROOM of civilians at a movie theater. You guys need need serious reality check.

First off, the theater is not as dark as you imply. If it was, the survivor recount stories you read wouldn't tell in such great detail where the guy was standing and moving around. I've read plenty of them and they all mentioned watching the guy as he went up and down the aisles.

Secondly, even if it was as dark and smokey as you imply, you could locate within 3 feet of him where he is at by muzzle fire. I know for a fact you can and anyone that has ever seen a gun fired at night (foggy or not) will know this. With a revolver and 6 rounds, any person that is worth a shit with their firearm would have dropped this retard.

Lastly, as you are now thinking of his tactical gear, let me go ahead and tell you it fucking hurts to get hit by a round in a vest. That is a round to the chest, it would hurt even more so on any other body part. He will drop to the ground like a sack of potatoes, you can possibly even kill him depending on the caliber of your gun if you hit him in the vest.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off, the theater is not as dark as you imply. If it was, the survivor recount stories you read wouldn't tell in such great detail where the guy was standing and moving around. I've read plenty of them and they all mentioned watching the guy as he went up and down the aisles.

Secondly, even if it was as dark and smokey as you imply, you could locate within 3 feet of him where he is at by muzzle fire. I know for a fact you can and anyone that has ever seen a gun fired at night (foggy or not) will know this. With a revolver and 6 rounds, any person that is worth a shit with their firearm would have dropped this retard.

Lastly, as you are now thinking of his tactical gear, let me go ahead and tell you it fucking hurts to get hit by a round in a vest. That is a round to the chest, it would hurt even more so on any other body part. He will drop to the ground like a sack of potatoes, you can possibly even kill him depending on the caliber of your gun if you hit him in the vest.

Yes, if someone in that movie theater were armed and not killed before they were able to comprehend the situation, they probably could have stopped him after a mere two dozen or so casualties.

That's such backward thinking, though. In the event of a one-in-a-million atrocity, yes, it's better to have multiple armed retards. For the other 999,999 atrocity-less viewings, some moron civilian carrying a gun everywhere he goes only opens the door to negative outcomes.

The problem with the pro-gun crowd, if you'll grant that there's a problem, is that you have entirely too much faith in the general population (including yourselves). I have a hard enough time trusting your garden variety idiot to serve me coffee without spilling it on my dick. Naturally, I'd prefer they not be armed with a killing machine.

And for some reason, the pro-gun crowd thinks they're going to be able to save themselves from the rest of the idiots with guns by possessing a gun themselves. That's not how it works. I'm sure plenty of people in that movie theater own guns. They didn't have them at the time. I'm also sure that at least a dozen, probably more, of the casualties could have had guns on them and it wouldn't have mattered because they were already shot by the time they had any idea what the fuck was going on.

tl;dr -- the average human being is entirely too stupid to be trusted with a gun.

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tl;dr -- the average human being is entirely too stupid to be trusted with a gun.

Lol sadly it does not work like that, thinking like that will just get civilians disarmed, but you know who gets to keep guns when a nationwide gun ban happens? Criminals an cops, an since the criminals know your not armed than crime rate spikes (in some cases 4x) insanely, this is a proven fact just look at any country with gun laws. Guns dont kill people thats like saying cars kill people an cars are always #1 every year for unnatural cause of deaths...so we should all be banned from driving? illogical thinking there. What needs to happen is this guy get punished with death, it was the guy, not the gun.
The damn guy had tear gas canisters which are not legally available at your local gun shop, they are banned yet he still got them, Plenty of gangs etc have automatic weapons an grenades even an there not legal, Banning anything does not do shit but disarm good people an the "bad/mental" ones get more out of control because of it.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, if someone in that movie theater were armed and not killed before they were able to comprehend the situation, they probably could have stopped him after a mere two dozen or so casualties.

That's such backward thinking, though. In the event of a one-in-a-million atrocity, yes, it's better to have multiple armed retards. For the other 999,999 atrocity-less viewings, some moron civilian carrying a gun everywhere he goes only opens the door to negative outcomes.

The problem with the pro-gun crowd, if you'll grant that there's a problem, is that you have entirely too much faith in the general population (including yourselves). I have a hard enough time trusting your garden variety idiot to serve me coffee without spilling it on my dick. Naturally, I'd prefer they not be armed with a killing machine.

And for some reason, the pro-gun crowd thinks they're going to be able to save themselves from the rest of the idiots with guns by possessing a gun themselves. That's not how it works. I'm sure plenty of people in that movie theater own guns. They didn't have them at the time. I'm also sure that at least a dozen, probably more, of the casualties could have had guns on them and it wouldn't have mattered because they were already shot by the time they had any idea what the fuck was going on.

tl;dr -- the average human being is entirely too stupid to be trusted with a gun.

Hmm, I totally forgot how carrying a gun makes you more likely to be shot before someone that isn't carrying a gun.

You know who the idiot is in your situation? The one who thinks the guys with guns are idiots and chose not to carry because he is more intelligent.

Your entire post is fucking stupid. If anyone was too retarded to pour coffee, it would definitely be you.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, I totally forgot how carrying a gun makes you more likely to be shot before someone that isn't carrying a gun.

You know who the idiot is in your situation? The one who thinks the guys with guns are idiots and chose not to carry because he is more intelligent.

Your entire post is fucking stupid. If anyone was too retarded to pour coffee, it would definitely be you.

Holy Christ how could you possibly miss the point so horribly.

I don't think carrying a gun makes you more likely to be shot. I think a bunch of retarded hillbillies carrying guns makes you more likely to be shot. I don't think everyone carrying a gun is an idiot. I think about 60% of the general population are idiots, and with 300,000,000 American citizens -- 50% of which own a firearm -- that means a lot of fucking morons with guns. Don't fret. There are a lot of fucking morons without guns, too. Those ones are less likely to shoot me.

Also, what makes you think I choose not to carry? Because I acknowledge that owning a gun likely wouldn't mean dick if some psycho decided to burst into a movie, toss tear gas, and start shooting people with an AR-15? Because I'm not pro-gun? Neither of those things mean I don't own a gun and know how to use it. You are clearly pro-gun. Do you typically have a loaded firearm on your person when you go to the movies? How about at work? Do you typically have one on you when you go into a coffee shop? If the answer is no, then you'd be as fucked as everyone else in the past 3 spree shootings in the US.

In America, it makes sense to own a gun for personal protection. But it's not going to save you in the majority of random shootings. And if I had to give up my gun to get guns out of the hands of a few million irresponsible dimwits and/or lunatics likely to shoot someone? That's a great trade, as far as I'm concerned.

[Harmonium]

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