Open Veeshan's Peak Raid - Phara Dar - Thursday Night

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Greeedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autotune, you are not dumb. Dont act like it.

What is implied by it is something indefinite - i.e., noone else can kill the dragon in general...hence it will always be there for TMO to get whenever they want. I am saying that simply isnt true unless you add in the fact that TMO has threatened to train anyone out of VP.

Ultimately I agree with you - the content itself is not overly difficult. That is also my point, however.

The dragon would be dead had 30 TMO not been siting outside VP waiting to zone in EVEN THOUGH there was already a force in there. What do you really think their intentions were? To zone into sky? Lol.

You say "it would have been dead" because you got it to 8% once. Doesn't automatically mean the next attempt = dead.

Given enough time with no pressure, I am sure any target on this server can be killed by any gang of scrubnuts.

I mean, by your standards, other guilds are = to BDA, i mean they could kill any VP dragon, they just need a few days/weeks/months/time/raiders.

The only thing that defines a guild on p99 is being able to kill shit under pressure.

[Greeedy]

That is fine.

You are essentially agreeing with me then. I am sure you see this.

[Autotune]

I've never disagreed with that stance.

I don't see TMO vowing to give BDA free dragons. BDA is being pretty much just like VD was towards TMO after IB left.

Who knows for sure, they could get pissed b/c IB likes to poke and prod till they get smacked down (not to mention BDAs are following that trend) or they could surprise you and just give you Nexona or Hoshkar (they aren't worth much in terms of loot and I am sure IB would love to add some meaningless server first).

IMO, don't be pissed cause you don't see what IB is doing and then get trained to shit. You think they are being noble, when in fact, they are playing you like a hand (same with how they did VD). IB is mostly on EQmac, they could not care less if they ruin relations between BDA and TMO (add in those VD's with a grudge).

IB has not changed much in the way of leadership and IB leadership has never cared about the server health, only their pixels. If you haven't been around long enough to know, go back and search their recruitment threads and RnF posts.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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IMO, don't be pissed cause you don't see what IB is doing and then get trained to shit. You think they are being noble, when in fact, they are playing you like a hand (same with how they did VD). IB is mostly on EQmac, they could not care less if they ruin relations between BDA and TMO (add in those VD's with a grudge).

IB has not changed much in the way of leadership and IB leadership has never cared about the server health, only their pixels. If you haven't been around long enough to know, go back and search their recruitment threads and RnF posts.

Haha

Do you make this shit up on the fly? Please tell me what IB is doing. You attest to know something that know one else does. Noble? Pug raids and randoming loot. Just playing classic eq.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing that defines a guild on p99 is being able to kill shit under pressure.

Like attempting dragons past midnight when there are two IB trainers in the zone?

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well everyone else viewed it as some lonely gamers who got trumped, who came back for revenge. Next time bring a raid force. We just didn't feel like getting into train wars past midnight.... alot of us work in the morning

There was a raid force in there, they left when your large raid force entered the zone.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like attempting dragons past midnight when there are two IB trainers in the zone?




There was a raid force in there, they left when your large raid force entered the zone.

We've already soundly destroyed IB with larger numbers in VP and killed Phara Dar. It was guild vs guild. Unlike VD, TMO and IB have actually done shit that matters.

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not saying IB is innocent at all, but you are the TMO pot calling the IB kettle "Black".

I'm not saying TMO are angels, but they are definitely not as bad as IB ever was in regards with sharing targets with other guilds. In fact, name one time IB stepped aside and gave targets to the server while they were #1

[Metallikus]

TMO actually brought in SK trainers into the zone before the suspension was lifted and parked them at our raid force to show their intentions.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO actually brought in SK trainers into the zone before the suspension was lifted and parked them at our raid force to show their intentions.

Then TMO SKs are stupid, because they weren't supposed to even enter VP until after the suspension was over.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then TMO SKs are stupid, because they weren't supposed to even enter VP until after the suspension was over.

I have to admit, they are begging for some rules-lawyering if they were sitting in a raid zone before their suspension was lifted.

[Greeedy]

Most the IB - few exceptions like perun or loke who have rarely been there anyway - who have been there these last few nights do not play on EQ mac. I know this for a fact.

And the IB that have been coming started logging on well before TMO got banned. Just saying.