How do we get players to return to Project1999?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you guys understand. Killing everything doesn't give you rights to CT, it just makes it easier for the extremely large guild with the batphone to come in and take him off your little hands. Ambrotos is perhaps unintentionally taking away one of the few tactics that would allow a smaller force to defeat him.

Yeah but it would be the right thing to do for the guild that cleared fear to at least get a stab at it. If they fail, they are not going to get another shot. I know BDA would not pull CT through Divinity, for example, if they had cleared the zone ahead of us. It could be considered similar to pulling a mob through a raid. Unless the plane is empty its going to be a train. Its going to train whomever else is the zone. Stated above training for any reason is against the rules.

I will admit it will get murky when each guild gets relatively close together pulling a similar amount of mobs. Maybe then a FTE ruling goes down? Any other ideas?

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but it would be the right thing to do for the guild that cleared fear to at least get a stab at it. If they fail, they are not going to get another shot. I know BDA would not pull CT through Divinity, for example, if they had cleared the zone ahead of us. It could be considered similar to pulling a mob through a raid. Unless the plane is empty its going to be a train. Its going to train whomever else is the zone. Stated above training for any reason is against the rules.

I will admit it will get murky when each guild gets relatively close together pulling a similar amount of mobs. Maybe then a FTE ruling goes down? Any other ideas?

There are a few reasons as to why this is with Cazic. Mainly #1
1) He will warp under the ground when too many npcs are being kited. Seen it, been there and done that. Was a mess to res everyone. It doesn't matter if its a large guild or small guild.
2) Attacking him out right, and not kiting it around is done more often than not, and doesn't desync the zone.
3) Lowers the chance of a Guild training everything around and having it wipe the other guild racing them for it. History shows Guilds have done this, and trained other guilds. Thus the playerbase is the one causing this enforcement.

If people think kiting it around with the 90% chance of cazic warping underground is blocking smaller guilds from doing cazic, you are wrong. This isn't intended to help any guild have the upper hand. It's intended to keep a encounter from bugging out and training the entire zone onto everyone.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a few reasons as to why this is with Cazic. Mainly #1
1) He will warp under the ground when too many npcs are being kited. Seen it, been there and done that. Was a mess to res everyone. It doesn't matter if its a large guild or small guild.
2) Attacking him out right, and not kiting it around is done more often than not, and doesn't desync the zone.
3) Lowers the chance of a Guild training everything around and having it wipe the other guild racing them for it. History shows Guilds have done this, and trained other guilds. Thus the playerbase is the one causing this enforcement.

If people think kiting it around with the 90% chance of cazic warping underground is blocking smaller guilds from doing cazic, you are wrong. This isn't intended to help any guild have the upper hand. It's intended to keep a encounter from bugging out and training the entire zone onto everyone.

Being in the guild who has been the sole killer of Cazic for months. He has never warped for us so your 90% statistic seems a bit skewed...like 90% skewed.

[Ambrotos]

I said when there were more than 1 guild doing it. I've been there and had to watch. The server is here for more than one guild, and there will be other than one guild there sooner than later.

Like I said the players can come up with something different, and if it makes sense I'm all for it. Otherwise this will be it.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kunark was said to cure the classic content issues. Velious will not cure the raid scene. Check Fippy Darkpaw's history here: http://www.fippydarkpaw.com/news/show/517883

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said when there were more than 1 guild doing it. I've been there and had to watch. The server is here for more than one guild, and there will be other than one guild there sooner than later.

Like I said the players can come up with something different, and if it makes sense I'm all for it. Otherwise this will be it.

I wal also part of the guild that was there with multiple guilds in fear, over 100 in zone many times and I don't remember any ct under the zones.
I made an earlier post about repops as a suggestion tho

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wal also part of the guild that was there with multiple guilds in fear, over 100 in zone many times and I don't remember any ct under the zones.
I made an earlier post about repops as a suggestion tho

Wouldn't 100 people in the zone when draco is being killed and kited cause the same issues as CT? I mean not 100% sure with this but you would think if there is a giant train and 2 guilds in the zone a Draco could fall under just as easy. I am also sure you guys notice that some normal mobs fall through randomly from time to time.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't 100 people in the zone when draco is being killed and kited cause the same issues as CT? I mean not 100% sure with this but you would think if there is a giant train and 2 guilds in the zone a Draco could fall under just as easy. I am also sure you guys notice that some normal mobs fall through randomly from time to time.

the main problem you get with that many in fear is the zone desyncing...its highly annoying

[Stealin Dragons]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't 100 people in the zone when draco is being killed and kited cause the same issues as CT? I mean not 100% sure with this but you would think if there is a giant train and 2 guilds in the zone a Draco could fall under just as easy. I am also sure you guys notice that some normal mobs fall through randomly from time to time.

I've never seen CT fall under, that I can remember, and I've seen him kited all over fear by IB during a wipe. However, people have reported him going outside of the invisible zone lines during desyncs so I assume it's possible they've seen him go under the zone while desyncing as well.

90% of the time during CT raids that i've seen he just falls to the ground, not through it.

[Relapse1]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wal also part of the guild that was there with multiple guilds in fear, over 100 in zone many times and I don't remember any ct under the zones.
I made an earlier post about repops as a suggestion tho

CT bugged out lots after epics were released. Zone would desync every time as well after epics was a common thing Tmo liked to do .


I love how you play dumb tho

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Relapse1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CT bugged out lots after epics were released. Zone would desync every time as well after epics was a common thing Tmo liked to do .


I love how you play dumb tho

I love how you lie and make assertions without evidence...keep it up!