Raid Mobs up for Grabs

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by Quizy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

daimadoshi ex tr.. all the people arguing here are mostly tr/IB or former tr/IB people now wearing different tags(Of course they are gonna flame TMO they left the server over not being able to share mobs lol)...Your gonna flame TMo giving away 1 mob a week?

pot: kettle?
kettle:yes?
pot: your black!
kettle?: .....

get real man.. we enjoy competing for mobs.. we all did it on live and it was a classic playstyle.. this is a classic server... if you wanna flame people because they play the game the same way they always have then that's just a little out of touch with reality of a non instanced MMO game like everquest... or just whiney in general..

Good luck to all the next 2 weeks with the raid mobs

pot: kettle?
kettle:yes?
pot: your black!
kettle?: .....

Just no. You maybe enjoy it when the competition turns into a 24/7 job, but it was never the case on my server (and I know for a fact it wasn't the exception, and few others were the same). And my server was as classic as yours. Now who is out of touch and being whiney here?

A good balance between sharing the fun & pixel and the right touch of competition goes a looong way. Such a hard concept to grasp, I know. All it takes is IB/TR & TMO out of the raid scene to show what EQ was for the rest of us.

Or you can keep thinking EQ was all about griefing, training, cockblocking, poopsocking and cheating to get to the top. Your choice. I feel sorry for you if your server was like this, truly.

[Hagglebaron]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you can keep thinking EQ was all about griefing, training, cockblocking, poopsocking and cheating to get to the top. Your choice. I feel sorry for you if your server was like this, truly.

My server was like this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People here really have no idea what griefing is.

Haha honestly this server is super carebear compared to fennin. We had to field separate raids for train defense. Fun times

[Quizy]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just no. You maybe enjoy it when the competition turns into a 24/7 job, but it was never the case on my server (and I know for a fact it wasn't the exception, and few others were the same). And my server was as classic as yours. Now who is out of touch and being whiney here?

A good balance between sharing the fun & pixel and the right touch of competition goes a looong way. Such a hard concept to grasp, I know. All it takes is IB/TR & TMO out of the raid scene to show what EQ was for the rest of us.

Or you can keep thinking EQ was all about griefing, training, cockblocking, poopsocking and cheating to get to the top. Your choice. I feel sorry for you if your server was like this, truly.

I don't believe in training cokcblocking or poopsocking.

I believe in mobilizing for raid targets after they spawn.. which is what TMO does... we do not set 15 people on spawns and wait for them..

Not sure who you are referring to but ALOT of servers including most importanlt Veeshan was COMPETITION For raid mobs..

Sounds like you started playing EQ after LDON and instancing came out.. Im not trying to flame you here im just saying this:

Everyone plays the game different.. we arent BREAKING the RULES playing the way we play.. we just all played competitively in classic and for you to tell me my way is wrong is just as stupid as me calling your playstyle wrong(which i have never done)...

best of luck to you and your playstyle.. mine will NOT change.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Quizy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe in training cokcblocking or poopsocking.

I believe in mobilizing for raid targets after they spawn.. which is what TMO does... we do not set 15 people on spawns and wait for them.

I am confused, I read an uncontested account that the events leading to your raid vacation was started when you and friends put 15 @ noble. Just trying to make sure I was not misinformed.

I may have poor memory in my old age, I remember a guild who in an attempt to compete in kunark began placing an inordinate amount of personal online waiting for spawns. I will not fault them, because the tactic proved successful. Perhaps you just joined a few months ago and are not familiar with how your friends got where they are today. Prior to that, nothing in kunark was socked.

Looked like a healthy turn of events last night.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am confused, I read an uncontested account that the events leading to your raid vacation was started when you and friends put 15 @ noble. Just trying to make sure I was not misinformed.

I may have poor memory in my old age, I remember a guild who in an attempt to compete in kunark began placing an inordinate amount of personal online waiting for spawns. I will not fault them, because the tactic proved successful. Perhaps you just joined a few months ago and are not familiar with how your friends got where they are today. Prior to that, nothing in kunark was socked.

Looked like a healthy turn of events last night.

it was a race to noble spawn im sure even in your old age you remember how the noble cycle works here

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was a race to noble spawn im sure even in your old age you remember how the noble cycle works here

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both TMO and BDA knew Dojo's timer in sky. We called our normal Sunday raid for lower islands plus the efreeti cycle. When we started mobilizing TMO brought in a rather large raid force to sit on dojo island, so BDA conceded the cycle.

sit on dojo island = Poopsocking

[baub]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sit on dojo island = Poopsocking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWm_EEsnhs&feature=plcp

i dunno this looks like racing to me

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Quizy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe in training cokcblocking or poopsocking.

I believe in mobilizing for raid targets after they spawn.. which is what TMO does... we do not set 15 people on spawns and wait for them..

Not sure who you are referring to but ALOT of servers including most importanlt Veeshan was COMPETITION For raid mobs..

Sounds like you started playing EQ after LDON and instancing came out.. Im not trying to flame you here im just saying this:

Everyone plays the game different.. we arent BREAKING the RULES playing the way we play.. we just all played competitively in classic and for you to tell me my way is wrong is just as stupid as me calling your playstyle wrong(which i have never done)...

best of luck to you and your playstyle.. mine will NOT change.

I'm not one to blame TMO for all the server's woes, but you totally missed the point of Daimadoshi's post. Competition and mobilizing is great but it shouldn't turn into a full time job. Last night there was competition, because every mob respawned at once when the server came back up. We all had advance notice of when the patch was happening, and could therefore get an idea of when it would be finished. Normally when mobs can pop at any time in their insane 96 hour windows, there isn't "competition" in any meaningful sense, because to compete requires spending markedly more time than most casual players have (and also more time than they would have had to spend in classic). I'm not saying rotations are the answer, but rather that casual players WANT to compete, they just can't because the current ruleset encourages anti-competitive behaviour (like poopsocking). If you think it's normal that casual raid guilds get almost no mobs at all on a given week, then you didn't play classic. If you don't think it's normal, then you concede that at least some of what I'm saying has to be right, and that the barriers to competition on this server are unreasonable.

Just to reiterate, I don't think TMO is the evil one here. You guys offered casual guilds free mobs (Gore, Sev, Tal) when you didn't have to and we had some fun times with that. When your suspension is lifted you should consider honouring at least some of Sanluen's post for the benefit of the server.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Quizy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe in training cokcblocking or poopsocking.

I believe in mobilizing for raid targets after they spawn.. which is what TMO does... we do not set 15 people on spawns and wait for them..

TMO is great at mobilizing, but I've been in too many poopsock races with TMO to know that this is simply not true. I don't know what the raid scene looked like the last two months, but if TMO hasn't been poopsocking, it's only because no one wants to poopsock with them.

On another note, if TMO really wanted the competition that they always claim to want, it'd probably be in their best interest to leave every mob up until the competition showed up since it's ultimately a FTE race anyway. May as well save everyone's time.