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[bilbobaggins]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, slow bus still waiting for r99 to become handicap accessible (xp).

kunark = new fun for all.

kunark = fun for current 50's.

unfortunately it will not bring back any of the players that want to play but don't have the time to dedicate to the grind. if i don't have the time to get from 40-50 do you really think i'm going to even attempt 50-60 with these same experience rates?

listen, you said the pop would spike when hate came out... please explain the 25% drop in pop since hate was released. again, you are asking for things that only the current level 50s want, not for things that the server as a whole needs to survive.

do you understand the difference between wants and needs? kunark is something we want and i won't deny that. kunark is fun as shit, especially for melees (me). but it is not something that will bring back players and help the server.

wants vs needs.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by bilbobaggins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

kunark = fun for current 50's.

unfortunately it will not bring back any of the players that want to play but don't have the time to dedicate to the grind. if i don't have the time to get from 40-50 do you really think i'm going to even attempt 50-60 with these same experience rates?

listen, you said the pop would spike when hate came out... please explain the 25% drop in pop since hate was released. again, you are asking for things that only the current level 50s want, not for things that the server as a whole needs to survive.

do you understand the difference between wants and needs? kunark is something we want and i won't deny that. kunark is fun as shit, especially for melees (me). but it is not something that will bring back players and help the server.

wants vs needs.

^Clearly has no clue what kunark has to offer. Just started EQ apparently. Even harrison has a better grasp.

No one thought hate or sky was gonna bring in mass peeps, you'd have to be an idiot. After 5 months, you just have to make the jump on an accelerated timeline. The server was stagnating (losing people daily), and now the vast majority of those who played R99 have won classic EQ. There was more manastones and rubi bps than there were people...

Sitting with 100s of 50s MIA just so we can try to draw in another 20 or 30 new guys to post-legacy classic era is not working. I know a lot of the remaining are way behind and want to get easy xp to recruit to your guild, but don't be selfish... No amount of exp is going to retain population in classic at this point. There isn't enough low level population to support it. Shits cashed.

[hagard]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even harrison has a better grasp.

post lost all credibility with this comment

[bilbobaggins]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^Clearly has no clue what kunark has to offer. Just started EQ apparently. Even harrison has a better grasp.

No one thought hate or sky was gonna bring in mass peeps, you'd have to be an idiot. After 5 months, you just have to make the jump on an accelerated timeline. The server was stagnating (losing people daily), and now the vast majority of those who played R99 have won classic EQ. There was more manastones and rubi bps than there were people...

Sitting with 100s of 50s MIA just so we can try to draw in another 20 or 30 new guys to post-legacy classic era is not working. I know a lot of the remaining are way behind and want to get easy xp to recruit to your guild, but don't be selfish... No amount of exp is going to retain population in classic at this point. There isn't enough low level population to support it. Shits cashed.

its like arguing with a brick wall :-/

for the hundreth time, i'm not against releasing more content (kunark). i am however arguing that it will do absolutely nothing for the population or health of the server.

but i digress, i've laid out my points for the devs to read (hopefully) and that's all i can do. we'll either get changes that will help the server and you might see the pop increase.... or... not.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by bilbobaggins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its like arguing with a brick wall :-/

for the hundreth time, i'm not against releasing more content (kunark). i am however arguing that it will do absolutely nothing for the population or health of the server.

but i digress, i've laid out my points for the devs to read (hopefully) and that's all i can do. we'll either get changes that will help the server and you might see the pop increase.... or... not.

^

I'll enjoy new content, it will be fun, and I'm sure it will bring back 15-20 nihilum (which will also kill all competition), and a few other people, but ultimately people will quit for the same reason they did before, the grind will just be too tough to bear. Again, if you can't make it past level 20 now, how are you ever going to ding out of 55?

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by bilbobaggins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its like arguing with a brick wall :-/

for the hundreth time, i'm not against releasing more content (kunark). i am however arguing that it will do absolutely nothing for the population or health of the server.

but i digress, i've laid out my points for the devs to read (hopefully) and that's all i can do. we'll either get changes that will help the server and you might see the pop increase.... or... not.

Because you're wrong, and I won't pretend you're right.

• Kunark will bring in new people who want to play kunark.
• It will bring back old people who want to play kunark.
• New content stands as the best way to win back people who completed all the classic content.
• It will bring folks from blue who didn't want to play classic again, but want PVP.
• It will take people from blue who weren't part of the uber guilds, and would like a way to compete over kunark that didn't exist on blue (PVP).
• Kunark offers leveling from 1-60 and will provide new population for people to level with.
• Kunark offers many pre-nerf items, thus a highly competitive timeline early on (PVP).
• Kunark provides many months of raid after leveling.
• Kunark balances classes, thus PVP, a ton, making melee much more viable.
• Kunark offers 10x the itemization for character development/progression.
• Kunark offers better resist gear as well as much more dynamic gear for PVP.
• Kunark offers a new race which is huge, esp for necro and monks and will therefore contribute low level population.
• Kunark offers epic quests which will bring much more highly contested content to the table later in the timeline (PVP).
  
  

Could easily double or triple this list with more time.

Please though, lets just have those few players who didn't complete classic content 4 months ago spam the forums telling us how we need more exp so they can insta 50 their friends and pad their guild to compete over content thats been completed months ago.

I'm not against bonus weekends, hot zones, removal of hybrid penalties or anything of the sort, but please, this foolishness that these things will somehow bring people to a post-legacy classic server that's already been farmed into the ground is beyond ridiculous.

[Sojourner]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because you're wrong, and I won't pretend you're right.

• Kunark will bring in new people who want to play kunark.
• It will bring back old people who want to play kunark.
• New content stands as the best way to win back people who completed all the classic content.
• It will bring folks from blue who didn't want to play classic again, but want PVP.
• It will take people from blue who weren't part of the uber guilds, and would like a way to compete over kunark that didn't exist on blue (PVP).
• Kunark offers leveling from 1-60 and will provide new population for people to level with.
• Kunark offers many pre-nerf items, thus a highly competitive timeline early on (PVP).
• Kunark provides many months of raid after leveling.
• Kunark balances classes, thus PVP, a ton, making melee much more viable.
• Kunark offers 10x the itemization for character development/progression.
• Kunark offers better resist gear as well as much more dynamic gear for PVP.
• Kunark offers a new race which is huge, esp for necro and monks and will therefore contribute low level population.
• Kunark offers epic quests which will bring much more highly contested content to the table later in the timeline (PVP).
  
  

Could easily double or triple this list with more time.

Please though, lets just have those few players who didn't complete classic content 4 months ago spam the forums telling us how we need more exp so they can insta 50 their friends and pad their guild to compete over content thats been completed months ago.

I'm not against bonus weekends, hot zones, removal of hybrid penalties or anything of the sort, but please, this foolishness that these things will somehow bring people to a post-legacy classic server that's already been farmed into the ground is beyond ridiculous.

Did not read, but wanted to share the story of the Great Destin:

Refer to this picture from when the server was already dead and this hardened PVE warrior was still a pup. February came, he dinged 50, joined the zerg, acquired some gear on a 50 person box - now he speaks to all that is wrong and has been wrong on the server since the beginning. Our fearless leader.

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[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sojourner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did not read, but wanted to share the story of the Great Destin:

Refer to this picture from when the server was already dead and this hardened PVE warrior was still a pup. February came, he dinged 50, joined the zerg, acquired some gear on a 50 person box - now he speaks to all that is wrong and has been wrong on the server since the beginning. Our fearless leader.

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Proving what I've said since day one, Destin complete non factor, was not present for any of the actual PVP when this server was still healthy, joined Nihilum from Uprising when server was already dead, looted some planar shit uncontested on 30 person box, now thinks he's a big shot. lolz