FIX RESISTS

[jdklaw]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whats your mana at in typical PvP gear?

probably between 1700-2100

[Null]

This shows the total damage for Wizard with 2000 mana casting Ice Comet / Conflag / Rend until they run out, this doesn't factor in mana regen or leftover mana (I assume whatever is left is for utility spells). Used 1000 casts per resist level

Ice Comet (this would be about 1/5 less for anything less than 2000 mana just fyi)
3690 @ 50 CR
2845 @ 100 CR
2005 @ 150 CR
1505 @ 200 CR

Conflagration
3256 @ 50
2488 @ 100
1688 @ 150
1344 @ 200

Rend
3605 @ 50
2744 @ 100
1925 @ 150
1477 @ 200

Does this seem unreasonable?

[hagard]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This shows the total damage for Wizard with 2000 mana casting Ice Comet / Conflag / Rend until they run out, this doesn't factor in mana regen or leftover mana (I assume whatever is left is for utility spells). Used 1000 casts per resist level

Ice Comet (this would be about 1/5 less for anything less than 2000 mana just fyi)
3690 @ 50 CR
2845 @ 100 CR
2005 @ 150 CR
1505 @ 200 CR

Conflagration
3256 @ 50
2488 @ 100
1688 @ 150
1344 @ 200

Rend
3605 @ 50
2744 @ 100
1925 @ 150
1477 @ 200

Does this seem unreasonable?

Dullah shat upon by big null dog

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by hagard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dullah shat upon by big null dog

Hardly.

In classic EQ, there was a random factor in nukes. It wasn't static, like I stated earlier.

With good resists (ie 150), you might get a full potential resist (say 50%), but you also might just get the minimum resist for that level of resistance (which was more like max damage minus your present save vs that line of magic). There was a random factor about it. Higher your resist, the higher your base resist, and higher potential you'd have to resist more damage on top of that base.

Here is almost entirely static with 50-100 dmg variance. That variance variable needs to be increased.

In pvp gear, I have enough to cast 5 ice comets.

I've tested rend, and as stated above, because MR is higher, its naturally less efficient in a common scenario. Conflag seems to be the most efficient as people stack CR anticipating ice comet, but then I'm nothing but a druid with no heals...

[Wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hardly.

In classic EQ, there was a random factor in nukes. It wasn't static, like I stated earlier.

With good resists (ie 150), you might get a full potential resist (say 50%), but you also might just get the minimum resist for that level of resistance (which was more like max damage minus your present save vs that line of magic). There was a random factor about it. Higher your resist, the higher your base resist, and higher potential you'd have to resist more damage on top of that base.

Here is almost entirely static with 50-100 dmg variance. That variance variable needs to be increased.

In pvp gear, I have enough to cast 5 ice comets.

I've tested rend, and as stated above, because MR is higher, its naturally less efficient in a common scenario. Conflag seems to be the most efficient as people stack CR anticipating ice comet, but then I'm nothing but a druid with no heals...

lulz sup druid with no heals. you sound mad and you hate your class. sounds like you rolled a wizard to 2 shot everyone and think you are badass. if you aint havin fun dawg roll somethin else. if you really think you are a druid with no heals then you should probably just roll a druid.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Wolfgang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lulz sup druid with no heals. you sound mad and you hate your class. sounds like you rolled a wizard to 2 shot everyone and think you are badass. if you aint havin fun dawg roll somethin else. if you really think you are a druid with no heals then you should probably just roll a druid.

Got plenty of toons geared to the tits, just need a reason to play em. dawg

[AppleJacks]

All I see is a lot of FF half ass complaining with no real evidence to back anything up... Bamzal is clearly upset that I killed him. It's not my fault he thought he was awesome and decided to spend 15 minutes fighting a mage pet. Finally zoned into UGuk at 20% hp.. I followed.. nuked twice (both of which u partially resisted) and you DIED. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Take a look at the SS Retribution doesn't hit for 177, it usually hits for 400ish pvp therefore you partially resisted! Do your research whiny baby. And for the record all my roots/stuns/blind hardly ever land anymore at level 50 pvp since resists were tweaked. I think they are fine the way they are. I have over 120 FR and CR and I still get IC and Starfired for full damage. Here is the lesson learned for Bamzal.. don't fight mage pets, DUMB, and don't sit there (you resisted 4 roots) and let a cleric nuke you when you have less than 500 hp! <3 Good day.

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[bamzal]

Originally Posted by AppleJacks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I see is a lot of FF half ass complaining with no real evidence to back anything up... Bamzal is clearly upset that I killed him. It's not my fault he thought he was awesome and decided to spend 15 minutes fighting a mage pet. Finally zoned into UGuk at 20% hp.. I followed.. nuked twice (both of which u partially resisted) and you DIED. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Take a look at the SS Retribution doesn't hit for 177, it usually hits for 400ish pvp therefore you partially resisted! Do your research whiny baby. And for the record all my roots/stuns/blind hardly ever land anymore at level 50 pvp since resists were tweaked. I think they are fine the way they are. I have over 120 FR and CR and I still get IC and Starfired for full damage. Here is the lesson learned for Bamzal.. don't fight mage pets, DUMB, and don't sit there (you resisted 4 roots) and let a cleric nuke yo[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]u when you have less than 500 hp! <3 Good day.

Oh, hai Apple! Nice that you could pop in and determine why this thread is such a hot topic... Looks like you nailed it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess you only read the first post. That, or else you just have nothing of value to add to this discussion; which is regarding what PvP was really like during the classical era (what this server should try to mimic).

Since you clearly have no idea, please go re-read some of my previous posts in this thread. Also, I'll throw up some more classical era pvp-related posts for you to further familiarize yourself with.

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[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hardly.

In classic EQ, there was a random factor in nukes. It wasn't static, like I stated earlier.

...

Here is almost entirely static with 50-100 dmg variance. That variance variable needs to be increased.

...

This isn't how it works at all on red. I think before you act rude and ridicule others for not knowing what they're talking about, you should check your own facts.

edit: Re: conflag wands. My point wasn't that you need to rely on them, but that with them wizards become ridiculously OP. It doesn't take any time at all to farm conflag wands, you'll probably get at least a couple every time you farm hate.

[Seaweedpimp]

They arent too common lazor. Id say they drop of 1/20 liches