Alter End-Game Mechanics

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said I was entitled to anything. And that's the point. No one is entitled to anything. EQ has no instances, so the mobs are there for whoever is strong enough to get them. I think there's enough people and gear on this server for multiple guilds to be strong enough to get these kills, but at the moment only one puts forth the effort to make it happen. The others are too busy typing out walls of text about how unfair it is.

But that's the thing. This is a PvE game. There should be no effort to get them beyond whatever obstacles are built in the game. This is a cooperative game, people band together to take down mobs. The only reason there's competition is because TMO or whoever is on top at the time, creates it. This kind of environment benefits only one guild and only one kind of player.

As far as typing out walls of text about how unfair it is, that's because it is unfair and a public forum is the place to bring it up. If it were fair and the server were fine the way it is with one zerg guild monopolizing the content, I don't think Nilbog would be asking for suggestions.

I'd be all for forced rotations on this server, and for the majority of the server, I'm sure it will only enhance the fun of the game. I would suggest something along the lines of any guild that can kill a mob on their own gets in the rotation, leave one slot as a free-for-all so that people can have their competition and bragging rights and also use that slot as a qualifier for new guilds to attempt the mob and try to get in the rotation. If any guild wipes on their mob or don't kill it in a certain time, it becomes free for all.

For the people who want to compete for mobs all the time, that's what the Red server is for.

[Jimes]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be all for forced rotations on this server

Of course you would, because you and everyone else seem to have zero motivation to do anything for yourselves. Just do yourself a favor and reinstall WoW. This game is obviously far too competitive for you.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you would, because you and everyone else seem to have zero motivation to do anything for yourselves. Just do yourself a favor and reinstall WoW. This game is obviously far too competitive for you.

I take offense to your remark. Please don't be insulting.

I like EQ as a cooperative game, the game it was designed to be. Killing a dragon with your friends is fun. I don't play WoW, because I just don't like it. It's too repetitive and the encounters just aren't that engaging.

What I don't like is how content to the end game is arbitrarily blocked by one guild because they want "competition" in a game that was designed by nature to be cooperative.

[Fountree]

All i see in this post is fucking whining from people who never put in the work to compete. You want something? BOO HOO I WANT VP LOOT. fucking take it and stop complaining. We did. Honestly no sympathy at all for anything said by the other side. And no, this game isn't supposed to be 100% cooperative. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

You know what would fix the QQing? Keeping new content rolling close to the original timeline. Guilds move on and older raid/end game content is then made more easily accessible for other players. EQ is supposed to be an EVOLVING game. Any hinderance to it's evolution will cause problems and kick up server drama like this. TMO has handed several targets over on a silver platter over the past month, and all I see is more whining. Take your handouts with one hand gladly and QQ some more with your other hand.

[Jimes]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I don't like is how content to the end game is arbitrarily blocked by one guild because they want "competition" in a game that was designed by nature to be cooperative.

Blame game. It's not TMO's fault that you refuse to put forth the effort that it takes to compete with them. Are you even trying? No, you aren't. So you really have no room to complain.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blame game. It's not TMO's fault that you refuse to put forth the effort that it takes to compete with them. Are you even trying? No, you aren't. So you really have no room to complain.

I have plenty of room to complain. I've poopsocked Trak plenty against TMO. I've wasted Sunday afternoons sitting through DT cycles in Fear. I sat on VP's spawnpoint constantly hitting the attack button trying to get FTE. I've woken up at 3am on dozens of occasions to answer a batphone.

I quit trying, because that kind of game isn't fun. It's not even a game at that point and that is currently why TMO has no competition, because I'm not the only person who got burned out on doing that. I'm not asking for handouts, I'm just asking to play the game.

[Jimes]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I quit trying

The end. Enjoy WoW or whatever it is you do and let us enjoy our classic EQ instead of shedding tears on the forums trying to get it changed to suit your casual play style.

Also, cry me a river. You guys put up about 2 weeks worth of a fight before giving up. The rest of us went through months of that before we were on top.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The end. Enjoy WoW or whatever it is you do and let us enjoy our classic EQ instead of shedding tears on the forums trying to get it changed to suit your casual play style.

Once again you insult me. Please don't. I think I've shown you that respect, if I haven't, I whole-heartedly apologize.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, cry me a river. You guys put up about 2 weeks worth of a fight before giving up. The rest of us went through months of that before we were on top.

You've earned it, as I've admitted in other posts. But should you have had to go through that? No. If you turn around and enforce that on any other guild, you're no better than the people you sought to destroy. But you've earned your position and I'm not here to take it away from you. Enjoy your time on P99.

[Susano]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys put up about 2 weeks worth of a fight before giving up.

The competition VD received from TMO included underhanded actions like breaking into our private forums and posting RL pics of our guild leader and cherry picked comments to ridicule. Not to mention every dirty trick available in the book when it came to in game competition, which is completely denied now since the victors write the history.

You won, grats, but don't act like the fight was all above board. We gave up because we were ill equipped technically and morally to fight back.