TMO adds Talendor to the endangered dragon list

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Teddie1056 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell me if I am wrong, but wasn't variance classic?

6-12 hours on some dragons, but most of it was a straight 7 day timer.

Here it is anywhere from:

3days +-18 hours Trakanon

3 days +-24 hours Maestro, Draco

7 days +-48 hours All other bosses

48-96 hour windows are completely unclassic on raid mobs.

On the other hand it spreads out the raids throughout the week/time zones so that more people have a chance to participate in raiding.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the other hand it spreads out the raids throughout the week/time zones so that more people have a chance to participate in raiding.

I don't really agree with that assessment. It takes a particular level of dedication to track at all hours of the day and batphone at all hours of the day on the quest for pixels. If things spawn between 2am and noon on a weekday I'm betting only TMO and VD could field a force of 30 people to down most high end targets.

Maybe at one point variance was good for the server but currently it only caters to the hardcore raiding guilds. Trak spawned at 2am last night and TMO smoked him with no competition. Most other guilds aren't going to wake up for pixels with work in the morning. I'd be surprised if Taken had more than 12 for talendor this morning.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really agree with that assessment. It takes a particular level of dedication to track at all hours of the day and batphone at all hours of the day on the quest for pixels. If things spawn between 2am and noon on a weekday I'm betting only TMO and VD could field a force of 30 people to down most high end targets.

Maybe at one point variance was good for the server but currently it only caters to the hardcore raiding guilds. Trak spawned at 2am last night and TMO smoked him with no competition. Most other guilds aren't going to wake up for pixels with work in the morning. I'd be surprised if Taken had more than 12 for talendor this morning.

+10000.

Variance was implemented because people would simply park 150 players on the spawn point, blow the mob away in 10 seconds, and then the GMs would have to check their encounter logs to figure out who won. It works by making raiding so annoying in terms of tracking and batphoning that most people don't do it.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really agree with that assessment. It takes a particular level of dedication to track at all hours of the day and batphone at all hours of the day on the quest for pixels. If things spawn between 2am and noon on a weekday I'm betting only TMO and VD could field a force of 30 people to down most high end targets.

Maybe at one point variance was good for the server but currently it only caters to the hardcore raiding guilds. Trak spawned at 2am last night and TMO smoked him with no competition. Most other guilds aren't going to wake up for pixels with work in the morning. I'd be surprised if Taken had more than 12 for talendor this morning.

You're ignoring the fact that people outside of US EST/PST prime time play this game.

If there were no variance at all, the same people whose scheduled matched up with the spawn would be there each week. People that live/work in different time zones/schedules would be out of luck. With a variance, any guild has a chance at stuff like Maestro/Innoruuk during a normal Hate clear. Just like draco/CT in Fear.

[Teddie1056]

I mean, without a rotation of some sort, no guild other than TMO or VD will get high end mobs. And VD won't get many at that either. Ball's in TMO's court. Not saying that they have to do something or that they are obligated to, just that they are the decision makers here.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Teddie1056 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, without a rotation of some sort, no guild other than TMO or VD will get high end mobs. And VD won't get many at that either. Ball's in TMO's court. Not saying that they have to do something or that they are obligated to, just that they are the decision makers here.

Obviously their ball is in their court.

[goodies]

no jeremy im not ignorant....i have heard everything that went down this morning. kinda sad to pick off charmed people during a guilds turn just so u guys could take the dragon out yourselves. i get facts before calling anyone out. when my cell and in game PM's blow up for over an hour on the subject i will say something. dont get mad jeremy. if u really got something to say...take it to tells...ill go head to head with u in a heartbeat

[quido]

I'm livid, if you couldn't tell =)

[sanluen]

Originally Posted by goodies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when my cell and in game PM's blow up for over an hour on the subject i will say something.

Once they get your cell number, you will never be free again! I suggest a -10 DKP penalty for every text someone sends you. That is how I keep Chest from waking me up.

[canker]

Originally Posted by goodies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have heard everything that went down this morning. kinda sad to pick off charmed people during a guilds turn just so u guys could take the dragon out yourselves. i get facts before calling anyone out.

you get the facts eh? so you were told that when this happened zeelot had clearly pulled and FTE'd talendor and brought him to our camp yet your combined raidforce aggro'd him and attempted to kill, right?

also, even though it was extremely early this morning, I seem to remember zeelot saying in vent that thunderstruck had casted on him when charmed because zee runed himself after your guild and VD stole the aggro. it was self defense situation since he was still high on the aggro list due to pulling and FTE'ing talendor.