My dear sweet high prince Rogean, sir lord protector king czar lord cesar pal guy

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think its cute that you think tons o people left over the reasons you listed... as opposed to being repeatedly griefed, trained, camped, etc.

sure a handful of vztz kids rage quit because they could not handle classic EQ xp rates, or the fact that this server was not being run as an online FPS.

as a staff member, would u like to know the complaint i hear most of all? because they all have to do with griefing.

this may be a hard pill to swallow, but being the loudest opinion does NOT make you the majority opinion.

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actually that's completely bogus, i'm pretty sure i knew what i was getting into (i.e. griefing) when i searched out an everquest pvp emulator server 13 years after the game died

news flash: not all of us are eq pvp noobs (maybe you are, idk) and we realize that griefing comes with the territory, griefing is the reason we play

we stopped playing due to staff basically neglecting the server and doing nothing

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actually that's completely bogus, i'm pretty sure i knew what i was getting into (i.e. griefing) when i searched out an everquest pvp emulator server 13 years after the game died

news flash: not all of us are eq pvp noobs (maybe you are, idk) and we realize that griefing comes with the territory, griefing is the reason we play

It does come with the territory, but they added another layer of griefing that was unecessary

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actually that's completely bogus, i'm pretty sure i knew what i was getting into (i.e. griefing) when i searched out an everquest pvp emulator server 13 years after the game died

news flash: not all of us are eq pvp noobs (maybe you are, idk) and we realize that griefing comes with the territory, griefing is the reason we play

we stopped playing due to staff basically neglecting the server and doing nothing

Not everyone who enjoys PvP likes your form of it.

I love to grief as much as anyone else, but this isn't a server with 2000+ people and it rarely gets a good influx of new sheep to kill so you shouldn't been reaping more than can be sowed.

[Stinkum]

interesting theory but i'm pretty sure that nobody loves eq classic pvp so much that they sought it out 13 years later, googled an emulator server, installed titanium, took all the time to patch and figure out how to play red99, and then were so shocked and appalled that pvp was happening that they ragequit

people know exactly what eq pvp entails (griefing) and that is why they love it

people quit because of 0 development and staff neglect

[kazroth]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people know exactly what eq pvp entails (griefing) and that is why they love it

Uhhh, I don't know where it's written down in the manual, but who says this is what EQ PvP has to entail?

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by kazroth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhhh, I don't know where it's written down in the manual, but who says this is what EQ PvP has to entail?

unlike you, most of us have actually pvp'd on eq before red 99 and know how it works.

nobody came to a eqemu pvp server to pvp and then quit because pvp was happening, pretty sure pvp happening was the reason we came in the first place

the reason we stopped was because of staff neglect

[kazroth]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unlike you, most of us have actually pvp'd on eq before red 99 and know how it works.

nobody came to a eqemu pvp server to pvp and then quit because pvp was happening, pretty sure pvp happening was the reason we came in the first place

the reason we stopped was because of staff neglect

Bro, your words hurt me so deeply... I cannot express how sad I am at the thought that you don't think I'm a real man, and that you know my history and past so well...

Thank you for enlightening me.

P.S. PvP does not equal Griefing. You came here expecting to grief and get griefed, not PvP. No one's pissed off about PvP'ing.

[bamzal]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unlike you, most of us have actually pvp'd on eq before red 99 and know how it works.

nobody came to a eqemu pvp server to pvp and then quit because pvp was happening, pretty sure pvp happening was the reason we came in the first place

the reason we stopped was because of staff neglect

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

interesting theory but i'm pretty sure that nobody loves eq classic pvp so much that they sought it out 13 years later, googled an emulator server, installed titanium, took all the time to patch and figure out how to play red99, and then were so shocked and appalled that pvp was happening that they ragequit

people know exactly what eq pvp entails (griefing) and that is why they love it

people quit because of 0 development and staff neglect

The community isn't innocent.

This same stupid finger pointing between staff and community took place in VZTZ and in the end it ran a good 50/50.

Simply because the server's been neglected by Rogean and co. doesn't absolve all you shits from creating a massively toxic environment for others to play in that don't fit into your mentality.

Griefing isn't pvp.

If you think it is, you're a hilarious joke and don't know what pvp is. You probably started pvping on VZTZ.

It's a big part of it. It's the primary creator of smacktalk which is really half the enjoyment of PvP.

It also creates rivalries and fosters hate which makes normally meaningless kills important in the ego battle. The only problem is some people take it too far and kill the golden goose instead of stretching things out.

I was a griefer on Rallos. I played a naked, lv6 Troll SK with a high lv bow that could one shot most Dark Elves of lower levels than me. I fucked up Nektulos almost every day but I made sure to not kill the same people too much unless they came looking for me because while I loved to enrage people, I also didn't want to be a cruel dick and ruin people's experience too much.

In the end I came to be looked on with grudging endearment by the newbies I killed who later went on to higher lvs and always laughed when they found me doing the same old thing a year later when they were in higher lv guilds.