Wizard dps vs melee in groups?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lure nukes will only get you a lower mana-to-dps conversion rate, and you fall even farther behind on the damage over time calculation. If you blow your whole mana bar of 3250 with level 60 Lure of Ice, congratulations, you've just done 8250 hps out of 400,000 on that Velious boss.

IIRC Wizards get 5:1 unresistable nukes for giants and dragons in Velious. If we give them 50 mana/tick from c2+bardsong+meditation, thats 250 damage/tick, plus the initial 15-20k from burning their manapool. So for a 15 minute fight, thats 150 * 250 + 18,000 / 900 = 62 dps, which feels pretty comparable to what a rogue would do, and they don't need healers either if they can nuke in between aoes.

And in Kunark of course, wizards blow everyone else away.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IIRC Wizards get 5:1 unresistable nukes for giants and dragons in Velious. If we give them 50 mana/tick from c2+bardsong+meditation, thats 250 damage/tick, plus the initial 15-20k from burning their manapool. So for a 15 minute fight, thats 150 * 250 + 18,000 / 900 = 62 dps, which feels pretty comparable to what a rogue would do, and they don't need healers either if they can nuke in between aoes.

And in Kunark of course, wizards blow everyone else away.

Sorry Splorf but you're assuming things under absolutely perfect conditions that just don't exist. Just for starters, those uber nuke spells are 450 mana per 2000 damage which is not 5:1. Furthermore, those nukes take 6 seconds to cast, preventing meditation during those cast times.

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And in Kunark of course, wizards blow everyone else away.

Up till Velious, I agree that Wizards are extremely powerful in raids.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wizards do] 150 * 250 + 18,000 / 900 [dps.]

Sure would be nice if wizards actually did 37,520 dps.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure would be nice if wizards actually did 37,520 dps.

Raid mobs would die in seconds.

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[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure would be nice if wizards actually did 37,520 dps.

Holy shit, I've never seen an order of operations nazi on the forums before.

[kazroth]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy shit, I've never seen an order of operations nazi on the forums before.

If you're going to make that a proper noun you damn well better capitalize it! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Slave]

Originally Posted by kazroth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're going to make that a proper noun you damn well better capitalize it! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No pi for joo!!