Rangers

[Corrodith]

This thread pops up every week and I always say pretty much the same thing:

Things are terrible and not really fun at all until you get clicky haste cloak and badass gear. Even then your usefulness is fairly minimal unless you're a great all-around player. If you want to play a ranger casually as an alt then I think you'd be very stupid because it won't be that much fun.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Corrodith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread pops up every week and I always say pretty much the same thing:

Things are terrible and not really fun at all until you get clicky haste cloak and badass gear. Even then your usefulness is fairly minimal unless you're a great all-around player. If you want to play a ranger casually as an alt then I think you'd be very stupid because it won't be that much fun.

This is completely wrong. A properly geared ranger leveling up will out-dps everything but a fairly twinked rogue or similarly geared monk. And with that they will bring root parking, reliable agro, and decent tanking. I carry both a STR set and an ac/hp set for when I need to take hits, which is almost always because nobody plays a tank... but that's an issue for another thread.

It's easier to utilize your class to the best of its ability if you play a rogue or monk. They are both better dps later on. But it's profoundly fucking ignorant to say that makes rangers useless, or even undesirable, particularly when leveling.

But like he said, there's a ton of threads about this if you use the search function. I think the conclusion is that rangers have their flaws, but if properly played, can be an incredible contribution to a group. Just remember you have spells, and use them. There's too many rangers that never throw a downtime heal, or a root/snare. Such a waste.

Plus I find monks and rogues really boring.

[Egil]

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[webrunner5]

One nice thing about Rangers here is that there is some really cheap gear and weapons for them. A big plus on here. Like it has been said the 40% XP penality sucks but all Hybrids have it and some even more.

It is a great solo class. With the Swarmcaller you can slow like a Shaman. If you use 2handers from 20 to 50 you can cast damage spells even heal spells on yourself between swings. Doing a lot of damage.

It is not a easy road to go, but with the Tracking and some pretty good spells they get, Harmony, Thornes, SoW, etc and good DPS they are a lot of fun I think.

[Heavydrop]

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[Corrodith]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is completely wrong. A properly geared ranger leveling up will out-dps everything but a fairly twinked rogue or similarly geared monk.

Don't spread lies! This is just not true, as much as you might want it to be. This is coming from one of the best geared rangers on the server. I've parsed myself vs. other classes in pickup groups plenty while leveling up. The worst geared rogue or monk will out-dps the best geared ranger almost every time. You might be able to come close pre-50 if you're massively overgeared, but it just comes down to having lower weapon skills.

[Scavrefamn]

Originally Posted by Corrodith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't spread lies! This is just not true, as much as you might want it to be. This is coming from one of the best geared rangers on the server. I've parsed myself vs. other classes in pickup groups plenty while leveling up. The worst geared rogue or monk will out-dps the best geared ranger almost every time. You might be able to come close pre-50 if you're massively overgeared, but it just comes down to having lower weapon skills.

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[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Corrodith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't spread lies! This is just not true, as much as you might want it to be. This is coming from one of the best geared rangers on the server. I've parsed myself vs. other classes in pickup groups plenty while leveling up. The worst geared rogue or monk will out-dps the best geared ranger almost every time. You might be able to come close pre-50 if you're massively overgeared, but it just comes down to having lower weapon skills.

You're overstating the differences. If you're rocking a Woodsman's Staff + FBSS + smart gear choices and the occasional nuke between swings "the worst geared monk" is going to fall behind in the lower levels. I'm not spreading lies and I'm not deluding myself into thinking rangers will out-dps a geared rogue or a superior-geared monk. Perhaps I should have bolded the part where I said 'leveling', and not 50+, where the difference probably becomes more pronounced.

Something tells me your experience as a ranger was so unenjoyable because you were doing something wrong, like dual wielding or wearing tolans when you're not taking damage for a group. I've found my experience to be quite enjoyable, and my dps competitive.

[webrunner5]

The big thing about Rangers is they have some of the best weapons in the game Ranger only. And a lot are really cheap to buy. And can use a lot of the normal run of the mill suff also. And their twin Epics are really nice. They have nice self buffs to boot.

They just take a lot more thought how to approach mobs than say a Ogre SK does with their better AC, HP stats on getting hit solo. They have just about every spell a Druid gets and even a Druid can't kill a mob in like 30 seconds. It is more of a cat and mouse game on a Ranger. It gets tough level 50 and above, but no class just jumps from 50 to 60 in a week on here.

[Phased]

Lots of angry rangers here. They can't tank as well as tanks, they can't do as much damage as the DPS classes.

Yet, these threads should all end with the common response:

Good players > bad players, regardless of class.