Idea to stop all the fighting

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I was the monk there and I was clean, so your statements are false. It doesn't matter though, I want to talk about better rules of engagement. Less training, more consideration for other guilds. The guides/GMs don't want to sort out EVERY SINGLE ENCOUNTER. Step up, police yourselves, stop engaging in shitty tactics. Only you can prevent wildfires /SmokeyBear

I watched you train our druid and one of your gnome casters (in a blue dress) and at least one other person by standing up and pulling the spectres onto the corpse and then dropping them.

IF it wasn't you, the fraps would surely look like you did it, as when you stood they would come toward inny corpse and when you flopped they would stop.

So while you think you did nothing wrong, perhaps the eyes of another would see that you aren't so clean. Or perhaps you don't see how perspective gives you different views on the same situation.

[arsenalpow]

I was FD on the ramp for the entire inny fight, I stood up clean, came down the ramp clean, then locked Inny's corpse while FD for a while. Then TMO had a bunch of people with broken capslock buttons. Is it a bug when an entire guild has all their keyboards break at once?

So, again your wrong. Quit derailing this.

Do you have any thoughts about better rules of engagement for fear/hate?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was FD on the ramp for the entire inny fight, I stood up clean, came down the ramp clean, then locked Inny's corpse while FD for a while. Then TMO had a bunch of people with broken capslock buttons. Is it a bug when an entire guild has all their keyboards break at once?

So, again your wrong. Quit derailing this.

Do you have any thoughts about better rules of engagement for fear/hate?

I'm not derailing anything, if it wasn't you that was standing and flopping from BDA, it was another of your monks.

Perhaps you shouldn't claim it.

Either way, you missed the entire point. It was about perspective of a situation from two different sides. You see it as being trained, I see it as you trying to KS a pull (purposely or not). Both things happened, which guild is to blame for what?

Should TMO be punished because you engaged a target that wasn't yours to gain social aggro and a train wiped most of your force?

Should BDA be punished for engaging a target that wasn't from their pull to which they caused themselves to be trained?

And the rules of engagement is FTE lays claim to the mob. The train that comes with it (if there is one) is also that guilds. Placing yourself onto the hate list by engaging another guild's mob is against the rules. Training another guild is against the rules.

If I root an entire train and someone starts using cancel magic to remove the CC and get added to the aggro list and dies, am i responsible for them too? Am I responsible for anyone else's actions that are not wearing my guild tag?

You all seem to want hand holding from GMs. You seem to want a trophy for just showing up. You seem to think your actions should not be held accountable when things don't go your way.

On the fairy tale note that is your final question tho, I think once a guild wipes, it's fair game.

Inny should have died to you guys long before we even showed up. When we found out that you guys had wiped and VD was on the way up, we moved to kill Inny so VD wouldn't. I couldn't care less who got it, as long as wasn't VD.

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not derailing anything, if it wasn't you that was standing and flopping from BDA, it was another of your monks.

Perhaps you shouldn't claim it.

Either way, you missed the entire point. It was about perspective of a situation from two different sides. You see it as being trained, I see it as you trying to KS a pull (purposely or not). Both things happened, which guild is to blame for what?

Should TMO be punished because you engaged a target that wasn't yours to gain social aggro and a train wiped most of your force?

Should BDA be punished for engaging a target that wasn't from their pull to which they caused themselves to be trained?

And the rules of engagement is FTE lays claim to the mob. The train that comes with it (if there is one) is also that guilds. Placing yourself onto the hate list by engaging another guild's mob is against the rules. Training another guild is against the rules.

If I root an entire train and someone starts using cancel magic to remove the CC and get added to the aggro list and dies, am i responsible for them too? Am I responsible for anyone else's actions that are not wearing my guild tag?

You all seem to want hand holding from GMs. You seem to want a trophy for just showing up. You seem to think your actions should not be held accountable when things don't go your way.

On the fairy tale note that is your final question tho, I think once a guild wipes, it's fair game.

Inny should have died to you guys long before we even showed up. When we found out that you guys had wiped and VD was on the way up, we moved to kill Inny so VD wouldn't. I couldn't care less who got it, as long as wasn't VD.

You and the other shitbags with this mentality are the exact problem with P99. People just cannot fucking bow out and leave/not come if another guild is in the zone and has beat them fair and square to a target. Do anything you can to get FTE whether it be training/leapfrogging/memblurring etc, who gives a fuck about anyone else.

Heres a wild fucking idea -- Maybe if you didn't port up to Hate after knowing two guilds were allready there, you wouldn't have to come here and defend the results of what happened.

It's gotten to the point where its absolutely fucking pathetic and I'm ashamed to even be part of the server. Grow up.