New troll shaman questions on equipment

[Flash]

Can you link me to the totemic armor/quests unbann?

[Raavak]

Totemic Armor Quests

[Grozmok]

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.ph...aman_Equipment

Troll > *

Racial STR, STA and Regen is awesome.

Troll Regen + Item Regen + Spell Regen + Cannibalize = Mana for daaaaaaaaaaaaaays

[Galelor]

Originally Posted by fohkure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's all been explained before. If you do a tiny bit of research you will find why most shamans prefer stamina as a starting stat over wisdom. Survivability is big for Shamans. We get hit a lot soloing and raiding. I can always make more mana, I can't always survive a flurry of attacks. Mana pools are for druids and clerics, not for Shamans.

I raid with 148 wisdom, and I never have a problem with too little mana. When i solo/farm I have about 135 wisdom and I never have a problem.

If you med a lot, you probably want a bigger mana pool... and you are playing your shaman incorrectly. You should be standing with chloro and rage on at all times and cannibalizing if you are not casting another spell.

Chris

Edit: before some one comes in here and splits hairs about my not meditating comment I will add... some shamans try to med on the server tick, and it's an awesome little trick... but requires way too much attention to the server tick and not to what's going on around you. If you can do it, great. I don't.

You use Rage? Even with c2 I can't out mana regen the -mana flow on that spell. How exactly are you using it?

[phobus]

Originally Posted by Galelor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You use Rage? Even with c2 I can't out mana regen the -mana flow on that spell. How exactly are you using it?

Look at the date on his post. The mana drain effect on the rage line used to be broken.

[Galelor]

Originally Posted by phobus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at the date on his post. The mana drain effect on the rage line used to be broken.

ah, boom. bumping old threads does that.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Grozmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.ph...aman_Equipment

Troll > *

Racial STR, STA and Regen is awesome.

Troll Regen + Item Regen + Spell Regen + Cannibalize = Mana for daaaaaaaaaaaaaays

Eh...have you actually run the #'s for how much extra mana per minute the troll regen nets? It's really not as much as you think, especially before 55+.

[isoka]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh...have you actually run the #'s for how much extra mana per minute the troll regen nets? It's really not as much as you think, especially before 55+.

Yes, but after 55+, it makes a huge difference. If regen doesn't matter, why fungi tunic are considered as a must have item for shamans ?

In my opinion, go for troll. Does it mean ogres, barbarians and iksars are bad ? No

[falkun]

Someone else posted a quote that pretty much sums up the Shaman class, especially pre-Velious:

1) Ogre: +Stun Immunity +JBB
2) Troll: +Regen +JBB
3) Iksar: +Regen -No JBB
4) Barbarian: +Faction +JBB

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by isoka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, but after 55+, it makes a huge difference.

At 60 (the level of biggest difference), trolls receive an additional 11hp per tick sitting. That's 110 hp per minute or approximately 60 mana per minute with Canni IV. Or, more usefully, an extra 6 mana per tick.

Sorry, to me that's simply not as game breaking as stun immunity. And nearly every 60 shaman i've known who played in the velious era agreed, including one who played a troll.

Originally Posted by isoka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If regen doesn't matter, why fungi tunic are considered as a must have item for shamans?

This isn't really a useful question. A better question is "What are the alternatives to Fungi Tunic and how do they compare," and the answer is there simply isn't anything that compares well.

In the Troll/Ogre debate, you have two alternatives - frontal stun immunity or an extra 11 hp or 6 mana per tick. Among those two alternatives, i'd say frontal stun immunity is more game-breaking.