Ever seen real European sword fight

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by ShadowWulf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(out of a disdain for stylized weapons more than anything else really.)

Explain.

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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain.

Again, its not a professional level comment. It would be akin to you saying "I like Blue" and I say "I like red" and theeeen we can argue to the ends of time over it. However theyre both personal observations, but NOT bound in a concrete truth.

Oriental weapons are just as deadly, in the proper hands, as medieval. And more so, they each excel and falter equally in specific fields.

They are both wonderfully designed weapons (as I consider almost all martial weapons) at a simple, personal act of killing or maiming another body. They just do it differently.

On a personal level though, i find myself favoring (and hence studying) the more brutal European weapons (one of while, the traditional Flail, is tattooed from my back and around my neck). The shear damage, yet simplicity and effectiveness combined with what some would say intentional CRUELTY (which i would not argue against) design of some of these weapons is absolutely stunning. The variety in Halberds and pikes alone shines as a long history of effective, cruel, messy killing.

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Then with the Hunga Munga style knives (Arfican btw), these were ment to simply kill no matter how the damn thing was used! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ANother simple but effective and brutal weapon, ancient and easy to build, the Bar Mace.
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Sometimes the shear disturbing engineering that goes into ancient methods of maiming another human stand out. I supose in an artistic sense, european weapons tend to exude a menace, cruel brutal theme where as oriental weapons (Still effective at killing!!!) exude a more flowing, artistic and "clean" art to the act, if that makes sense.
Just as a quick add on its also why even with hand combat i find myself favoring more straight forward arts, based in practicality and forwardness more than, again, the flowing lines of oriental arts. So much so im starting russian Systema training next month here in Burbank. The style appeals to me ALOT, its not the "best" im sure, but that's not what I was after either, the style appeals to me.

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Originally Posted by ShadowWulf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

russian Systema

That shit is bad the fuck ass. I know a couple guys who are into that, that train resistance against each other instead of weights.. It doesn't even look like they are doing anything, and they put people on their asses.

If you combine systema with jiujitsu (many do), and train the grabs, holds, pressure points, etc., of jiujitsu with the resistance training of systema, you become this crazy force of nature guy who can completely cripple people without even looking like you're moving. It's insanostupidfucktardedsick.